Buy a brand new Mines ECU, or send yours off

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Ric

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Now you don't have to buy a used ECU and Hope that it works. Our MINES ECU's are imported direct from Japan and able to maxamize your BPU upgrades to get the most power out of your 1JZGTE. This is for a NEW MINES ECU and does not require a core exchange.

sale price: $1,782.00


MINES VX-ROM ECU UPGRADE
This will require you to send us your stock ECU and we will then ship this to MINES Japan to be upgrade and then shipped back to you. The price includes shipping to and from MINES Japan. Turn around time is appx 3-4 weeks, 1 week shipping to Japan, 1 week at MINES for upgrade and 1 week shipping back to Manic Tech Racing and then to you.

MINES VX-ROM ECU UPGRADE MINES price: $1,299.00
 

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And just how much more would you think a standalone costs? The extra money spent on a standalone and tuning is alot better than spending 1800 on a reflash stock ECU.

What advantage does a Mine's ECU have over a standalone?

Someone spending 1800 on their ECU isn't pinching pennies so what does the price difference matter?
 

csnow

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I can get an AEM for $1450 new and a tune is $360 from Alpha in Tampa including dyno time. The ECU is also kind a hobby. I look forward to learning more about EFI tunning and tweaking it down the road.

$1700 bucks to modify a stock ECU. That is a too much....sorry.
 
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Guys, he's just posting a price, keep your comments to yourself. He is offering another service to us. Dont shoot the messanger
 

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Ckanderson said:
Guys, he's just posting a price, keep your comments to yourself. He is offering another service to us. Dont shoot the messanger

Why should we not comment? This is the other engine discussion section. Ric isn't a vendor nor is he making any money off this.

Ric posted it, so naturally the questions and comments will be directed towards him and he will respond if he feels so inclined.
 
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I know that. Even if you use your own ECU, then you have no ECU to run your car for a whole month. That is unless you buy a stock ECU for around 200 to hold you over until your Mine's ECU comes back...

So is your opinion that this is a better investment than a standalone?
 

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If you daily drive and it's your main form of transportation, i would NEVER reccomend a stand alone.

Shane runs a AEM tuned by Darin at Titan Motorsports, and that car see's a laptop more often then it's driving down the road. With a reflashed ECU, you have toyotas base tune that has millions of dollars in development with a performance topping. With an AEM, you have no development in tuning except what the guy does on the dyno for an hour or 2.

The choice is easy depending on what you use your car for. Standalones are great for WOT, but for everything else they are a waste of $$.
 

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good questions

thats steep as hell and learning how to tune the AEM on yur own is where the fun of the product comes in
 

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Ric said:
If you daily drive and it's your main form of transportation, i would NEVER reccomend a stand alone.

Shane runs a AEM tuned by Darin at Titan Motorsports, and that car see's a laptop more often then it's driving down the road. With a reflashed ECU, you have toyotas base tune that has millions of dollars in development with a performance topping. With an AEM, you have no development in tuning except what the guy does on the dyno for an hour or 2.

The choice is easy depending on what you use your car for. Standalones are great for WOT, but for everything else they are a waste of $$.

so its basically the samething as using the 400$ AEM F/IC
 

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I deal with Shane's AEM all the time. Over my dead grave will I ever use one. The MAP ECU 2 is about the only thing i'd use that controls everything. You can't beat the reliability of Mr. Toyota's factory tune in all weather. To remove that off your car, especially if it's not a full race car is a bad move.
 

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The car doesn't have to be a daily driver. It could be a 2 day weekend warrior. How many people want to pay 1300 and wait 4 weeks just for an ECU upgrade or pay 1800 without a core charge?

Just because you know one person that has bad luck with a standalone doesn't mean everyone does. Who is Shane? There are tons of people with standalones that drive them everyday and run like stock or better. Maybe Shane should find another tuner if his car has to constantly be readjusted because it's not running correctly. You're notorious for generalizing based off one example.

Plenty people learn how to tune and adjust their standalones themselves. Why are you only mentioning AEM? There's lots of other EMS options out there... No development in tuning? People tune AEMs and other EMSs for a living and do it very well.

You are seriously delusional if you believe a standalone ECU is only good for WOT and not good for any other type of driving and also meant for a race car primarily. A reflash ECU is still a stock ECU and you can only do so much. With an EMS, your car is as good as the tune and there are many tuners out there that are qualified to effectively setup your EMS.

You didn't answer my question. Is it your opinion that this is a better investment than a standalone ECU?
 

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Ric said:
If you daily drive and it's your main form of transportation, i would NEVER reccomend a stand alone.

Shane runs a AEM tuned by Darin at Titan Motorsports, and that car see's a laptop more often then it's driving down the road. With a reflashed ECU, you have toyotas base tune that has millions of dollars in development with a performance topping. With an AEM, you have no development in tuning except what the guy does on the dyno for an hour or 2.

The choice is easy depending on what you use your car for. Standalones are great for WOT, but for everything else they are a waste of $$.


"Millions of dollars in developement" that still rolled out of production with a lean spot on the OBD1 ECUs between 4,000-4,500 rpm (USDM 2J). Just using this as an example that even Toyota doesnt get the code done right all the time. The base tune is thrown out the window when it is modified with the Mines. I see this as merely a flashed eprom piggyback that is manipulating the timing and fuel curve. What if your injectors are not flowing to Mines calculation? Are you gonna have to run a piggyback to make corrections? With a standalone, you are in control of all variables in real time for your setup.
 

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Ric said:
If you daily drive and it's your main form of transportation, i would NEVER reccomend a stand alone.

Shane runs a AEM tuned by Darin at Titan Motorsports, and that car see's a laptop more often then it's driving down the road. With a reflashed ECU, you have toyotas base tune that has millions of dollars in development with a performance topping. With an AEM, you have no development in tuning except what the guy does on the dyno for an hour or 2.

The choice is easy depending on what you use your car for. Standalones are great for WOT, but for everything else they are a waste of $$.
after I've setup my aem as far as driveability I havn't messed with that part at all, runs perfect no problems at all. I am tunning timing and fuel curves in boost all the time though.. if its having that much drivability problems take it back, or get a different tuner.. thats a tuner problem not the ems..
 
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