Bushing kit
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Iv'e been writting them a few times a year since I bought my Supra in 2001. I also write Summit Racing and ask them to ask Energy to make a kit, so the more of you that write these two companies the sooner we'll get a kit all of us can afford. Someday I hope to see a complete suspension kit from
P-S-T.com which includes all the tie rods and ball joints for around the same price I pay for most cars inport and domestic which is right around 230.00 with Poly Bushings.
P-S-T.com which includes all the tie rods and ball joints for around the same price I pay for most cars inport and domestic which is right around 230.00 with Poly Bushings.
welp... i think my bushings are junk.
is this a pipe dream now? id like to know if there are any big name retailers selling bushings for our cars in addition to our grass roots guys. i just want to know what to expect this project to cost whether its similar to building an '89 Trans Am front suspension or if its still an ungodly amount of money for some chunks of plastic and metal?
im half tempted to buy a big rod of polyurethan and make my own control arm bushings just so i dont spend an arm and a leg... unless the RK kit is cheap?
is this a pipe dream now? id like to know if there are any big name retailers selling bushings for our cars in addition to our grass roots guys. i just want to know what to expect this project to cost whether its similar to building an '89 Trans Am front suspension or if its still an ungodly amount of money for some chunks of plastic and metal?
im half tempted to buy a big rod of polyurethan and make my own control arm bushings just so i dont spend an arm and a leg... unless the RK kit is cheap?
I bought toyota and the total cost (excluding the lower control arms) was about 300 for front and rear bushings. Control arms were just over $115 a piece.
i bought the last set of nylon bushings from jay marks. paid $750, and just picked up a set of rear subframe bushings from RK. paid like $240+ shipping. (grabbed the fronts while i was at it) every bushing on my car will be NEW. 
Good lord...WHY are bushings so expensive for the MK3?? I mean...I can get front bushings for my Porsche for about $20 each. O_O
shaeff;886999 said:low demand.
If that's true for the MK3 bushings, then my Porsche's bushings should cost about $5,000 each. I see MK3's on the road all the time...yet I have NEVER seen another Porsche 924 in person...only 944's, which have a different suspension setup...
Am I missing something? Are the Supra's bushings really difficult/costly to produce or something?
The nylon bushings were hand made. At 22 pieces in the kit, that comes out to about $34 each. When no one is willing to make bushings for your car, you can command the 75% premium (over the $20 that your Porsche bushing costed). People have been talking about getting Energy Suspension to make bushings for us for over a decade now and it still hasn't happened.
johnathan1;887188 said:
My front end clunks as i turn all the way in one direction, and when i back up it sounds like a pop like the control arm shifts or something... This is a bushing problem, yes???
It feels soo lose:cry:
It feels soo lose:cry:
87soup;887221 said:
If you're only hearing the noise when the steering wheel is at full lock, check your steering stop caps.
87soup;887221 said:
I'm gonna say lower ball joints...mine makes similar pops and clunks, but not only when at full-lock...and it's the ball joints that are causing them... :\
my front end clunks... my front lower ball joints are shot... but i also noticed that my bushings have play in them too.
if ES wont do it, maybe prothane will?
if ES wont do it, maybe prothane will?
How frustrating.
I know that polyurethane isn't an expensive or difficult material to work with to cast. Friends of minde develop skateboard wheels which require about as much precision as a bushing, if not more.
Anyone with basic knowledge of cold casting could reproduce every bit of rubber from this car into polyurethane or polygraphite (graphite impregnated urethane) in large enough batches to keep costs down.
On one end, I can see how it would cost the customer $600+ for hand making each bushing, but on another level of practicality, I don't see why the molds aren't made to cast in larger batches.
I mean, what the hell is Energy Suspension thinking, making MKII bushings and none for the MKIII/IV?? That seems as backwards as seeing a kit for an '86 Dodge Charger, but none available for a '68...
I don't buy the demand thing when it comes to relatively modern and modern mass production car parts. Let alone wear parts. Let alone wear parts on a high performance, saught after sports car of any make. Especially on something this new, in comparison to a car that is 30/40/50+ years old (of which can be seen in ES's catalog). They made thousands of these things and the chassis was around for quite some time. You see stuff for a Nissan Z. There really is no reason.
I mean, even if you think about it from their end, if their marketting department knew how to do their job with any amount of awareness, they would see that they would have very little or no competition if they offered the kit at a reasonable price. What on earth could go wrong from a sales point of view? is ES paying the marketting rep to play with a Rubix Cube or on myspace?
I could understand if this chassis were only a one year thing or if it were a much lower production car, but even then you can get whatever you want for a Viper or a Vette.
I'm willing to go as high as $500 for a decent suspension rebuild kit if it includes hard parts as well.
I know that polyurethane isn't an expensive or difficult material to work with to cast. Friends of minde develop skateboard wheels which require about as much precision as a bushing, if not more.
Anyone with basic knowledge of cold casting could reproduce every bit of rubber from this car into polyurethane or polygraphite (graphite impregnated urethane) in large enough batches to keep costs down.
On one end, I can see how it would cost the customer $600+ for hand making each bushing, but on another level of practicality, I don't see why the molds aren't made to cast in larger batches.
I mean, what the hell is Energy Suspension thinking, making MKII bushings and none for the MKIII/IV?? That seems as backwards as seeing a kit for an '86 Dodge Charger, but none available for a '68...
I don't buy the demand thing when it comes to relatively modern and modern mass production car parts. Let alone wear parts. Let alone wear parts on a high performance, saught after sports car of any make. Especially on something this new, in comparison to a car that is 30/40/50+ years old (of which can be seen in ES's catalog). They made thousands of these things and the chassis was around for quite some time. You see stuff for a Nissan Z. There really is no reason.
I mean, even if you think about it from their end, if their marketting department knew how to do their job with any amount of awareness, they would see that they would have very little or no competition if they offered the kit at a reasonable price. What on earth could go wrong from a sales point of view? is ES paying the marketting rep to play with a Rubix Cube or on myspace?
I could understand if this chassis were only a one year thing or if it were a much lower production car, but even then you can get whatever you want for a Viper or a Vette.
I'm willing to go as high as $500 for a decent suspension rebuild kit if it includes hard parts as well.