Biggest Cylinder Bore Possible

jdub

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I contend the angle of the dangle would preclude controlled flight.
(They might get airborne, but it won't be pretty)

:biglaugh:
 

arz

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IJ. said:
I do ;)

"Although a definitive answer would of course require further measurements, published species-wide averages of wing length and body mass, initial Strouhal estimates based on those averages and cross-species comparisons, the Lund wind tunnel study of birds flying at a range of speeds, and revised Strouhal numbers based on that study all lead me to estimate that the average cruising airspeed velocity of an unladen European Swallow is roughly 11 meters per second, or 24 miles an hour."

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starscream5000

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Supracentral said:
Sigh.. There is no definite answer to this because there is variation within each block. The only way to be sure is to have YOUR block tested.

I've seen motors go .040 without problem. I've seen other people hit core shift (read cylinders not spaced propertly) or other casting imperfections on the first slight overbore. It's the luck of the draw...

Overboring is not a valid way to make power. Read this:

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showpost.php?p=180360&postcount=10

Cliffs: You want to go as SMALL as possible, not big. If you want to make big power there are better places to spend the money. For example, make the head flow...



To further back up that link, this one pretty much proves that an overbore will not yeild very noticable gains at all: http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44148 Like I said in there, it is used when a re-ring is not feasable, or damage has occured to cylinder walls that is fixable through an overbore.
 

Isphius

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ok, so scratch the overbore idea. What about that massive 102 mm stroker kit though? I was think that will probably move the power band down a few houndred rpms. But yes most of the time money will be spent on the head. I just want a badass 7m-ge to put in a mk2, no more turbos for me
 

starscream5000

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Too much stroke compared to the bore. A stroker kit will not last you very long on a 7M, it will wear out the pistons/cylinder walls fairly quick. You want to have an engine where the bore and stroke are as close together as possible to make it last.
 

Isphius

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yes but i was looking for in the area of 260+ crank hp. Plus I already have many of the 7m parts and knowledge i need.
 

p5150

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i bought my 2jzge w/70k miles on it w auto trans and wire harness for 400 bucks. THese engines are going for cheap.

If you are hell bent on building a NA 7m for this then great - im just saying that you may want to consider a 2jzge

You could easily wire it into your chassis and use a set of BIC motor mounts. And it will make more power....
 

starscream5000

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Why exactly do you want to put a lot of money into a non turbo to only see small gains whereas you can go turbo for less and get more back? Are you just wanting to be different than most of us?
 

arz

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I dont understand the "NO MORE TURBOS" mentality. Just run a very conservative boost and you will make 270 HP very reliabily. I dont get it, I personally have converted over a dozen people that thought they wanted to make a rockin NA motor. I just took them for a spin in my turbo car and BAM they were converted.

Good luck with your NA project "OUT"
 

foreverpsycotic

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i understand why he wants to do it, only if i kept it na, my power goals would be over 350crank. look into the SIP stroker kit (when it comes out) and ask for whatever CR you want. im looking in the area of 10:1 right now (incase i may want to boost down the line). according to 1/4 mile calculators, 300 na whp is all you need to get into the 12 sec range, albeit on dragradials and a perfect run.