i swear, i was cleaning my garage and i dropped one half a foot and it cracked in 2! So what exactly do these do? i would understand that they weren't doing much considering how brittle this one was.... so story short, are these needed?
are the r154 > 7m block mounts necessary?
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Well, Duane has been running the wrong one with only three bolts in it for years.
That said, I wouldn't run without them in *my* car.
That said, I wouldn't run without them in *my* car.
I ran without mine for a year before I realized my other supra had them.
So I guess theyre not needed.
So I guess theyre not needed.
So why did toyota put them on there then? FOR LOOKS? Just because you dont care if your car brakes other people do so dont be telling other people Bad advise. Yes they are needed. They support the transmission to keep from breaking the bell housing.TOMA70E said:
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What is with this forum and people getting so ass hurt over the smallest shit?
From my experience it doesnt seem like a vital part. Ive pushed my car hard in just about every type of driving I can and havent once had my bellhousing break without these supports.
If you have them sure put them on, if you dont want them, take them off.
You'll probally never notice a dfiiference.
okay, one question, if they broke from a small drop, how is it going to hold up against ANY torque?
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Impact is very different to torsional load.
Drop ANYTHING cast and more than likely it'll break but doesn't in use (ie: Cams or Cast cranks)
Drop ANYTHING cast and more than likely it'll break but doesn't in use (ie: Cams or Cast cranks)
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Drop your block, and you can crack it too. Does that make your engine block shitty?
LOL, it's cast iron. Cast iron does not like to flex, and when you dropped it, the force applied caused it to try and flex, and it cracked.
When they are bolted to the block and transmisison, they make both stronger.
Yes they are needed, and no, I'm not butt hurt, and really don't give a damn about who, has, or has not used them.
(BTW< mine are powdercoated candy apple red, so are they better? LOL)
Cliff notes version.
Anything made from cast iron that you drop onto a hard surface might crack. Especially cast iron parts like braces, brackets, suspension arms, knuckles and other long, thin cast iron parts.
Does it make them weak, or not needed?
LOL, good luck on your "knuckleless" suspension.. you know they crack if you drop them on the floor... so you must not need them.
LOL, it's cast iron. Cast iron does not like to flex, and when you dropped it, the force applied caused it to try and flex, and it cracked.
When they are bolted to the block and transmisison, they make both stronger.
Yes they are needed, and no, I'm not butt hurt, and really don't give a damn about who, has, or has not used them.
(BTW< mine are powdercoated candy apple red, so are they better? LOL)
Cliff notes version.
Anything made from cast iron that you drop onto a hard surface might crack. Especially cast iron parts like braces, brackets, suspension arms, knuckles and other long, thin cast iron parts.
Does it make them weak, or not needed?
LOL, good luck on your "knuckleless" suspension.. you know they crack if you drop them on the floor... so you must not need them.
I am not ass hurt but you should give solid advise or none at all.TOMA70E said:
And i dont care what you do to your car that is your car but if someone want the right answer than lets give it to them.
whoa nutswingers. 1/2 a foot drop would not break my cast manifold, but it destroys this piece. hmm time to find one locally.
The manifold has more mass to it and it's tube structure so of course it will take more force to break but it will break on impact.....
I really hope you're NOT calling me a nut swinger....
I really hope you're NOT calling me a nut swinger....
no, rather i was reffering to the whole nut swinging going on in this thread, people need to stop staying "on" all the time.
It's one of 2 brackets that bolt from the side of the block to the bellhousing.
If you honestly think you don't need them, then I pray you never put serious power down to the ground.
If you honestly think you don't need them, then I pray you never put serious power down to the ground.
I just put my transmission in today... I dont have either one... Come to think of it, I didnt have them when I took the tranny/engine out... This is my first 5sp Supra, so I didnt know, I thought maybe the 5 speeds didnt come with them... I know my auto had them...
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