Anyone on here know what "kicking" the clutch means?

[Mr.PFloyd]

yep, Joe nailed it. Kicking your clutch to try to increase boost and overall speed just doesn't happen over if you just went WOT.
Boostage, you need to learn how transmission components work before you post no driveline wear.

 

[steven89]

yep, Joe nailed it. Kicking your clutch to try to increase boost and overall speed just doesn't happen over if you just went WOT.
Boostage, you need to learn how transmission components work before you post no driveline wear.

+1

 

[TurboFreak]

Clutch kicking is for breaking the tires loose, AKA Drifting.

 

[Boostage]

I tried it at 2000RPM in 2nd first. Guess what happened? I kicked it, when I let out all I did was bog back down. Then I got a nice good smell of burning clutch. Yeah that was helpful...

you rode the cluch, thats NOT how to do it.

Then next I tried it at 3000. I kicked it and let out. Guess what happened? The tires broke free and just spun for about 2-3 seconds before catcthing any traction. It sounded just like the videos you posted. Revs shot up and it sounds like I'm going fast or something but all it is was the tires spinning until the road speed caught up

BINGO!. you broke traction because the wheels saw more instant tq. you did it on stock twins at which was already designed to spool quickly and at 3000rpms where it takes very little throttle for the motor to get loaded. you applied 70% throttle when you were already at 3000rpms. of course its going to blow tires on stock twins, thats alot of tq.

Trying it any higher than that just resulted in frying the tires even more. Not to mention it would be worthless since I would be making full boost quick in anything after 3000.

exactly, as its not needed on STOCK TWINS. Virgo has a 72mm. he wouldnt break traction the car would launch forward..

Let me ask you a question. you said as soon as you did it the right way the tires broke loose. how do you think that car would accelerate if you actually had tires worth damn? breaking tires mean they are seeing more instant power. At what point ever does breaking tires loose mean your making LESS tq to the wheels?

 

[foreverpsycotic]

BINGO!. you broke traction because the wheels saw more instant tq. you did it on stock twins at which was already designed to spool quickly and at 3000rpms where it takes very little throttle for the motor to get loaded. you applied 70% throttle when you were already at 3000rpms. of course its going to blow tires on stock twins, thats alot of tq.

exactly, as its not needed on STOCK TWINS. Virgo has a 72mm. he wouldnt break traction the car would launch forward..

Im going to call BS. If traction breaks with stock twins, than that baby eater of a 72mm would roast tires. that turbo comes on like a freight train, and could break traction when it hits boost normally.

 

[drewgo]

HEre's my interpretation. I am in first I know I don't hit full boost until 4400 or so, depress the clutch slightly where the car start to roll, I hit the gas and while clutch not fully depress which revs my engine and spins the turby. once I feel the time is right I let go of the clutch completely and off I go....
Right?

It works cuz I've done it but really kill your clutch.

 

[IJ.]

A full "kick" will break the tires loose on even the most underpowered cars and once the initial shock loads breaks traction they spin easily.

Very hard on the driveline from the engine mounts to the wheels studs and everything else in between.

Fanning the clutch is another thing entirely......

You slip the clutch allowing the motor to rev harder = more mass flow and this will spin the turbo up making more boost so you go faster once you let the clutch engage.

This is a HORRIBLE thing to do to a clutch and will heat check the flywheel and pressure plate if done too long or too often and in extreme cases can boil the resin in organic clutch discs enough that if the car is shut down hot it bonds the PP/disc/FW (much like a Feramic welds itself if slipped too much)

Anyone that tries to tell you this doesn't do damage is talking shit..

 

[Rich]

you guys make me laugh.

+2

click ;-)

 

[Boostage]

It works cuz I've done it but really kill your clutch.

Dre and IJ, I wasnt going thru clutches ever 6 months. so for me it didnt decrease life, however like you said. it WORKS. thats the point

 

[tissimo]

I've used it before in a Low 1st gear roll with a mustang (5mph roll, launched sorta like at the track).. if I'm near where I get full boost thought brake boost will give you a better jump

 

[Van Diesel]

I engage a drift by feinting, powering over or just simply doing a combination of both. I use clutch kicking to re-engage a drift. It will destroy clutches...but it does work. However, my OS Giken twin plate has taken quite a beating over several YEARS of me using this method. No signs of wear yet (knock on wood).

 

[Boostage]

Tissimo, brake boost will give you a better jump as you can launch at full boost if you choose, but it takes longer. this is just to get you going quickly.

 

[Boostage]

I engage a drift by feinting, powering over or just simply doing a combination of both. I use clutch kicking to re-engage a drift. It will destroy clutches...but it does work. However, my OS Giken twin plate has taken quite a beating over several YEARS of me using this method. No signs of wear yet (knock on wood).

/thread

 

[Van Diesel]

Well, also reminder that I have a very beefy clutch and a Kaaz diff. Some might argue that that is the reason why I don't break shit, but on my old stock clutch (and with stock twins at stock boost) with the only mod I had was a muffler (stock intake box and catalytic converter) did this and it also lasted for YEARS. And I drifted it at LEAST every weekend (in Japan not in the USA).

YES it is bad for your car, but you gotta pay to play. I did it knowing that it would decrease the life of the drivetrain.

 

[tissimo]

Tissimo, brake boost will give you a better jump as you can launch at full boost if you choose, but it takes longer. this is just to get you going quickly.

yea, so i see no point in clutch kicking unless trying to drift?

 

[OneJoeZee]

you rode the cluch, thats NOT how to do it.

BINGO!. you broke traction because the wheels saw more instant tq. you did it on stock twins at which was already designed to spool quickly and at 3000rpms where it takes very little throttle for the motor to get loaded. you applied 70% throttle when you were already at 3000rpms. of course its going to blow tires on stock twins, thats alot of tq.

exactly, as its not needed on STOCK TWINS. Virgo has a 72mm. he wouldnt break traction the car would launch forward..

Let me ask you a question. you said as soon as you did it the right way the tires broke loose. how do you think that car would accelerate if you actually had tires worth damn? breaking tires mean they are seeing more instant power. At what point ever does breaking tires loose mean your making LESS tq to the wheels?

I'm not going to keep beating around the bush with you. I tried it and it didn't do shit for me except abuse my transmission. I did not ride the clutch anytime at all.

You are seriously full of shit if you think you aren't doing any harm to your drivetrain. Just because something hasn't broken yet doesn't mean damage isn't being done.

For your information, my tires are fine. Don't resort to talking shit about my setup because your clutch kicking method failed when I tried it. I don't drive around on drag radials but the Falken Azenis tires I use hold traction very well. If I had something like drag radials on, the car would just bog back down since it wouldn't have the power to break a tire like that free. And if it did, then I would just be spinning tire. I did it the "right" way everytime, just kicking the clutch like you said. If the RPM was too low(not enough power), the car bogs. If it's even a little too high, the car spins.


I don't need to keep posting you. You said your piece, I said mine. I even experimented with it in different situations and it doesn't do anything for me that I couldn't do better without abusing the shit out of my drivetrain. I don't need to beat the shit out of my drivetrain just because some ricer caught me off guard and jumped out in front of me. If you were driving an underpowered POS or want to use the technique for drifting, it sounds great.

You don't need to keep replying to me because you haven't convinced me of anything. I already told you, if you like it then have fun. It's not my car. You don't need to keep trying to convince me that straight line clutch kicking is some magical solution to big turbo lag and doesn't cause any increased where.

 

[Boostage]

Joe read what van diesel said, is he full of shit too?

 

[OneJoeZee]

Joe read what van diesel said, is he full of shit too?

Pay attention

I engage a drift by feinting, powering over or just simply doing a combination of both. I use clutch kicking to re-engage a drift. It will destroy clutches...but it does work. However, my OS Giken twin plate has taken quite a beating over several YEARS of me using this method. No signs of wear yet (knock on wood).

He mentions using clutch kicking during a drift to RE-engage the drift. I like how you took the ONE part where he says 'but it works' when the context of the statement is directly referenced AFTER his statement about drifting. Reading comprehension skills are fundamental... If he meant that it works to somehow overcome turbo lag in a straight line as you have been saying, he would have said so. No where in any of his two posts on this page did he mention anything about a straight line use of the technique to defeat turbo lag with a large turbo. If he wants to clarify and say otherwise, he can. But until then, you have to accept the context of his posts which was in reference to DRIFTING.

And he clearly states it DOES do a good deal of harm, which you have been denying.

YES it is bad for your car, but you gotta pay to play. I did it knowing that it would decrease the life of the drivetrain.

Are you done now, Mr. Boostage? Please. This is getting really old.

 

[Boostage]

Joe your a moron..

However, my OS Giken twin plate has taken quite a beating over several YEARS of me using this method. No signs of wear yet (knock on wood).

but on my old stock clutch (and with stock twins at stock boost) with the only mod I had was a muffler (stock intake box and catalytic converter) did this and it also lasted for YEARS. And I drifted it at LEAST every weekend (in Japan not in the USA).

Did he see any additional wear.. the answer is no. but thats not even the point. doe steh method work, the anwser is yes you moron! 5 people who actually did it, said that it works, now why are you arguing? it works. end of story.

 

[Supracentral]

If you kids can't play nice, you aren't going to play at all.

Enough of the name calling.