Allow me to introduce you...

Grimsta

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Allow me to introduce you to my friend. I call her #0652399 but you may call her a 2JZ-GTE. Picked her up for $100. The guy told me it’s a GTE but its actually a GE. Anyways, it doesn’t matter, internals are the same except for the pistons and I need new pistons anyways. So in about a year and 4 months, this beast should be sitting in the Stealth Attack for the 2009 NASA Time Trial Series. As the Japanese would say “すばらしい!”
 

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BlackMKIII

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Go Ace! Um, Japanese say what?

BTW, I've heard the N/A head doesn't need much work, so maybe you lucked out? I'd buy that for $100 and build it in my spare time just to have a backup short block in case I manage to kill my new 1JZ (just a few more weeks!)
 

Grimsta

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Subarashii, it means "wonderful!" or "fantastic!" lol
BTW, are you stalking me? You posted like 2 seconds after i did ;)
 

Grimsta

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Yeah, about that. How can i add the oil squirters? They're not simple bolt on things are they? I thought they threaded into passages in the block and since this block doesn't have that, i thought it couldn't be done
 

cjsupra90

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They can be added. The spots on the main oil galley needs to be machined, drilled and tapped for the squirters.

The are many discussion as to whether or not they are truely worth having. If you search, you can read up on it and decided for yourself. IMO, unless the motor is being build for towing or road racing, they are not worth having but thats just my oppinion.
 

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My thought is that if you can get a local engine shop to put them in for you at a reasonable price it's worth it and still probably less than getting a GTE block. (esp for what you paid for yours!)

It goes towards the longevity of the engine and the Toyota engineers put them there for a reason. (and they were designing a 320hp engine... we know you're not going to stop there ;) ) They were also designing an engine that would see a constant fuel map, etc. Not potential temp spikes from tuning, high PSI runs, etc. If you can get it done inside your budget then do it. It's a "small" price to pay for a little added insurance vs. the potential cost of going in to replace a fried piston in a year or two.

As with anything... just my 2c. (though with the Canuck Buck up like it is my .2c are worth slightly more than they were several months ago ;) )
 
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cjsupra90

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piston coating would be better spent money. I am not fully knocking oil squirter as they do have there merrits, but really do not have any benifit for street engines. I know that toyota has engineers that know a lot more then I do, but just because they did something does not mean that it is the best thing. We can find design faults and wasteful spending in differnt areas of just about any car, toyota included. Toyota installed then on the GTE engines cause they know that there would be some people that would treat thier engine poorly or use it in ways that it was not intended to be used and this would help to keep warrenty work lower. A perfect example of proper use of design aspects is in the UZ engines. Toyota installed squirters in the 2UZ truck engines and not in the 1UZ or 3UZ engines, reason being, the truck engine is more likely to see sustained heavy power loads due to huling loads, where as the 1UZ and 3UZ engines for the most part wont see these types of loads.

Short bursts of power do not raise piston temps like sustaining high amounts of power does.

Like I side befor, I am not knocking squirters as they do have merrits and there place in engines, but my old 7m for example was a GE block (no squirters) stock O.E. turbo pistons, resurfaces head, 1.5mm MLS (calculated CR or 8.98:1) running 15psi and has 132,xxx miles on that built and still ran like a champ the day that I got rid of it to increase funds for the TT-UZ conversion. In all honestly, except for certian situations, to me squirters are just more mechanical items that can fail.
 

Poodles

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true, but toyota has a good record of overbuilding their cars (we can all be thankfull that we don't snap axle shafts, ect because of this)

so it's good designing on their part. There is another reason to run them, something about the wristpins with aftermarket rods or something, can't find the info right now though...
 

Grimsta

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Yeah i will be getting forged pistons (.030) and coating then skirts and I will be road racing. I am tight w/ a machine shop. They're going to do some other sponsor work, i can ask him about that. He was actually bringing up about knocking the little balls out of the crank to do cleaning and then tapping the hole and using a pipe plug to plug it. But if you think with forged pistons with coatings the squirters wont be necessary....