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Hey you MN/ND/Wisconsin/Iowa MKIII guys. I am having a custom roll cage built for my 87. The local guy here in St. Cloud is well known and can make a chrome moly or DOM tubing cage that will be approved for 8.5 secs by NHRA. Funky_Monkey 58 and I are both getting one done. We think that if we go to him and have 3-5 guys that want one, we will be in a good position to get them done at a lower price. PM me if your interested. The shop is all booked out until March.
Dan
Dan
leecheater;1459850 said:
what if I bring up an old classic to put a cage in? could I still get in on the deal? it probably be similar cage as it would be going into a couple of Mk.IIs depending on what we can get for a price.
same here, i dont want or need one in my sup, but the datsun is gonna need one, any chance of a non supra getting a deal? it is really about quantity of buisness we could throw at him.
Lee_MA61 & fixitman04, funky_monkey58 and I are meeting with the guy today. I will ask. First of all we want ours done. I also got the name of another guy who does them but this Joe Z. guy has a great reputation.
I will ask about possibly doing some type of multipule car discount.
Dan
I will ask about possibly doing some type of multipule car discount.
Dan
Lee_MA61 & fixitman04, Sean and I went out to the guys shop last night. Come to find out, I actually had met him on several occasions but didn't know his name. His shop is huge and awesome. There we at least 8 cars inside in various stages of repair. All race cars.
He told me that it is legal to have a roll bar down to 10 seconds. For a chrome moly roll bar, he charges $1000. You have to remove interior. He makes the door bars so they can be taken out if your just out for a drive. A full cage is $2400. He requires $500 down to get on the list. The earliest he will be able to get at the cars would be late to mid March and he will need car for about 1 week. I am checking out my options this week, but am likely going to do it.
Here is his web site:
http://fatjoesracecraft.com/
He told me that it is legal to have a roll bar down to 10 seconds. For a chrome moly roll bar, he charges $1000. You have to remove interior. He makes the door bars so they can be taken out if your just out for a drive. A full cage is $2400. He requires $500 down to get on the list. The earliest he will be able to get at the cars would be late to mid March and he will need car for about 1 week. I am checking out my options this week, but am likely going to do it.
Here is his web site:
http://fatjoesracecraft.com/
well, thats rich... too much for me, besides i need a scca legal cage. guess il put that engineering school stuff to work and build my own.
and rob....wtf i even found this thread on my first day on the forum!
and rob....wtf i even found this thread on my first day on the forum!
fixitman04;1463288 said:
I :dunno: . I guess I never searched for it and that was the first time it has popped up in new posts for me.
For that price you could also buy your own tubing bender (any ware from $700-$2500 depending on how hi tech you go). Chrome moly tubing about $7 a foot, and DOM tubing is about $3 a foot. Plus this way you own a tubing bender, another tool to add to the collection. Use it twice / make 2 cages and it has more then paid for it self. Plus the satisfaction of doing it your self. 
Plus invest in "Bend Tech". It is software/ computer program used to make the right size bends / ect on a roll cage. MAke in cyber space first to make sure everything is correct.
At least that is what I would do if I was looking at spending $2500+ on a roll cage and there is at least 2 people ready / willing to spend $$$ to have a cage.
Plus invest in "Bend Tech". It is software/ computer program used to make the right size bends / ect on a roll cage. MAke in cyber space first to make sure everything is correct.
At least that is what I would do if I was looking at spending $2500+ on a roll cage and there is at least 2 people ready / willing to spend $$$ to have a cage.
Rob,
I fully understand the savings aspect, however, welding chromoly requires tig welder and you have to get it inspected. Plus, most tig welders don't have a lot of experience with it. We don't have the welder or the bender.
My goals are not below 10.0, so this only requires a roll bar, not a full cage. Joe makes the roll bar with the idea in mind that if a full cage is ever desired, he can continue building. The door bars can be made to unbolt and are removable if your just out for a cruise. I am planning to get on the list as soon as my boss gives me my Christmas bonus.
Dan
I fully understand the savings aspect, however, welding chromoly requires tig welder and you have to get it inspected. Plus, most tig welders don't have a lot of experience with it. We don't have the welder or the bender.
My goals are not below 10.0, so this only requires a roll bar, not a full cage. Joe makes the roll bar with the idea in mind that if a full cage is ever desired, he can continue building. The door bars can be made to unbolt and are removable if your just out for a cruise. I am planning to get on the list as soon as my boss gives me my Christmas bonus.
Dan
rob have you priced bend-tech software? upwards of $600! i have two benders already, and 1"-2.5" dies. i think il wing it on the design, i have a general idea of what i need for my car.
so dan that is not a full cage for that price? then it is astronomical in price. chassis engineering can build a cage for less than that in kit form, with bolt in door bars. btw i thought 10.99 e/t was the limit for a 8pt bar, needing a 10 pt cage if quicker.
http://chassisengineering.com/shopDetails.asp?CatId=10&SubCatId=47&ProductId=895 8pt
http://chassisengineering.com/shopDetails.asp?CatId=10&SubCatId=47&ProductId=855 10pt
http://chassisengineering.com/shopDetails.asp?CatId=10&SubCatId=47&ProductId=895 8pt
http://chassisengineering.com/shopDetails.asp?CatId=10&SubCatId=47&ProductId=855 10pt
leecheater;1463249 said:
sounds like some quality cages unfortunately I was looking at this or buying one of the tube kits they make for my car which is sub $800 for a full cage. and since I'm looking for two. You get what I'm getting at.
Thank you for looking into for us though, I do appreciate it.
fixitman04;1465531 said:
Bend tech pro is around $250
leecheater;1465336 said:
leecheater;1463249 said:
You dont have one, .............yet. Is what I was getting at. If your going to spend $2400 for each roll cage, 2 of them, (your and Sean's) that is almost $5k!!
Buy a quality bender for $2100, + bend tech pro for $250, and your at $2350 ish.
Add in what ever tuning you want to use, and I bet you spend less then $3k for 2 cages. Do the math and that is almost a $2k in savings PLUS you have the tools or you could re sell the bender and make your $$$$ back.
I have a local guy that can weld anything for $20-25 a hour
. Also there is probably some sort of "roll cage college" that one could go to if they wanted to for a couple hundo's. That is if they wanted to learn how to.
Also it doesn't matter what you make your cage out of it, ALL of it has to be inspected before every race, (tech inspection), after it is certified.
But as always it is up to you and it is your $$$$ to spend how you want.
Just my 2 cents. :biglaugh:
Rob,
At this point Sean wants to do his own and I am opting for the less expensive roll bar. $500 for a certified bar isn't too bad in my book. It can be updated at a later date to a full cage. I just know how fast my car is right now and if I drop in a bigger turbo, it will be in the 10s, if my drive train will hold her. I also feel a tad safer knowing that if I flip the car, there is a much better chance to walk away from it.
Heck, if a guy had a shop and can weld this might be a pretty good job fabricating cages.
Dan
At this point Sean wants to do his own and I am opting for the less expensive roll bar. $500 for a certified bar isn't too bad in my book. It can be updated at a later date to a full cage. I just know how fast my car is right now and if I drop in a bigger turbo, it will be in the 10s, if my drive train will hold her. I also feel a tad safer knowing that if I flip the car, there is a much better chance to walk away from it.
Heck, if a guy had a shop and can weld this might be a pretty good job fabricating cages.
Dan
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Bend-Tech-PRO-Software-p-2208.html $280fixitman04;1467413 said:
All the way down to $70 for bend-tech EZ witch is just a 2D layout
http://www.polyperformance.com/shop/Bent-Tech-EZ-Software-p-2210.html
leecheater;1467610 said:
I see now. Yes, $500 sound alot better and like you said you could add onto it later. So for 5 hundo is a 4 point cage (the main hoop behind the driver).
Dan,
I also just found this. Bolt in looks to be just under 9 bones.
http://www.autopowerindustries.com/applicationlist.asp
What else has every one been up to?
Me this :evil2:
I also just found this. Bolt in looks to be just under 9 bones.
http://www.autopowerindustries.com/applicationlist.asp
What else has every one been up to?
Me this :evil2: