bigarron, the mission was acomplished, we had Saddam out of power.
Guess what? When Japan and Germany lost in WWII, it was YEARS to actually end the fighting in some places. There were resistance movements in Germany in particular that were quite bloody. (We did not tolerate it very much, and basicly wiped out any resistance movement, and we did not have a media hounding our troops, and calling them baby killers and accusing them of war crimes, and trust me, every war has war crimes.)
That Iraq has come as far as it has in such a short time is pretty amazing. That our own media is fanning the flames of terrorism, and promoting the idea that we are the bad guy here is disgusting. Liberals in this country are so fucking stuipid it's annoying, and it's dangerous.
It's annoying to the other half of the nation that wants to resolve the terrorism problem with force. (The only way it can be resolved, negotiation and namby-pamby little strikes only pushed us all down the path that lead to 911, just look at Carter's and Clinton's reccords, and watch them let terrorist go, and even support them in Carter's case when we became friends with Saddam after he fucked up in Iran.)
It's dangerous because if we fail here to create something in Iraq that has never been done, but is supported by the people in Iraq, a democracy in the center of Islam. Right in the heart of Baghdad. We will leave Iraq and sure our soldiers will stop dying in road side bombs, and other terrorist acts. BUT we will watch those same terrorists infiltrate our country, plan new attacks, and execute them here on US soil. And you will watch more innocent American's die, buildings fall down, and eventually a nuke will be set off in this country by these Islamic based terrorists.
When that happens, even the stupid liberals might understand that we have to fight terrorism to remove terrorism, and it's not going to be a short war, with clear enemies and standard military battles. Yes there will be some of that, but there will be more deaths from trying to be nice to civillian populations infiltrated by terrorists than in the wars. (Just like we have seen in this war, it's the guy dressed as a woman who whips out the RPG and hits a convoy of supplies while his buddies also dressed as civilians detonate the IED killing more of our guys.)
These are not Iraqi citizens for the most part. They are other Arabs and Persians who are in Iraq fighting as Muhajudeen, and they have been told since they could walk that the USA is satan, and they will be exaulted with Allah for fighting the way they do. Die for Allah, and you go to his right hand, and get your virgins... blah blah..
The Komikazi's of Japan were very much the same deal in WWII. They were quite a menace, but we still won that war because we did not falter when they flew living guided bombs into our ships and other targets.
Are we going to falter now? Are we going to cut and run? What if the USA had cut and run after 3000 of our guys died in WWII? (Germany and Japan would be known for building more than awesome cars and stereo amps, and it's very likely the USA would not exist anymore.)
You know, actually if the Axis powers had won WWII, Islam would not exist, and China would be a second rate country controlled by Japan. The Arabs would have been controlled by Germany for the oil, and who know's how long Germany and Japan would have got along, Sooner or later they would have duked it out as well over the oil. The Arabs and islam would be a secondary matter, and if they bothered Hitler, he would have just rounded them up and sent them into camps, turned them into slave labor or just wiped them out. Japan was systematicly killing people in slave labor camps for men, and whorehouses for women conqured in their war on China and Korea. (Remember the apologies in the past decade from Japan to Korea, and to some extent China about WWII.)
Don't make the mistake to underestimate the power of global Islam, and the draw it has on uneducated poor people. Why do you think Islam has grown so much in South East Asia? Where the uneducated poor people have embraced Islam, and now outnumber the Arabs. Wait till the Wahabi sect get's going full swing in those places. (It already is in some parts, notice the global problem of Islamic terrorism, but by fighting terrorism at the core of the religion, in the "heartland" so to speak, we are drawing in all the zelots of Islam from all over the world, and killing them in Iraq.)
Good for us, now take off the gloves and really kick ass!
