Air in cooling system

[jetjock]

Lol, I have a thicker skin than that guys. Besides, I'm sure he feels better now

My comment was referring to the N/A forum where, from what I've observed, there seems to be more of those who're technically challenged than the turbo types. In that context I was just surprised to see an esoteric term of fluid dynamics mentioned.

And I do irritate some people. It's not like I've only heard about here. The way I see it the members have to weigh my personality against any benefit I provide. Frankly, considering the stuff I somtimes have to deal with I think it's a fair exchange. If I felt otherwise I'd leave on my own. I'm nowhere near being as "into" the car as others so the only gratification I get is helping people to help themselves.

Those here can vote me off the island any time they'd like. I'll mark his vote down as being one who'd prefer it happen but unfortunately (for him) it doesn't mean much. Tell you what though. In three weeks I'll be going to my summer job abroad so that'll give everyone the break he thinks they deserve. Never let it be said I'm not sensible

 

[Joel W.]

I vote you stay Gary. I would rather have the correct answer in a possibly "harsh" tone than the wrong answer given in any tone.

Weigh it people..

 

[jetjock]

No vote needed Joel. In the end it'll probably come down to my decision anyway. People come and go on forums all the time and my better half is giving me grief about being here when I'm home as it is. She deserves better

 

[Joel W.]

You got to do what you got to do to keep the wife happy..

 

[Nick M]

In 99 while still at Toyota, I asked about the block. When low on coolant, these cavitate at the rear and will overheat the back of the block near cylinders 5 and 6. Just by design of the block.

 

[suprabad]

Lol, I have a thicker skin than that guys. Besides, I'm sure he feels better now

I do feel better now...ahhhhhhhhhh!

I've read your posts and I can tell you're a good guy Jetjock. I just thought it sounded a bit arrogant.

Just wanted you to realize that we're not all a bunch of morans running around with a crescent wrench and a dime for a screwdriver.

 

[jetjock]

Hey, I've used dimes for screwsticks on many an occasion. Refuse to own a cresent wrench though.

Btw, it's spelled "moron"

 

[supramacist]

look guys......, jet jock hides nothing about how he is. He speaks his mind and the answer you are looking for is either in there or he's trying to clue you into what the answers really are. I speak my mind all of the time and it's not always good but atleast I'm smart enought to stop when I realize my ass is hanging out. I for 1 need jet jock here. Because I am honestly a mechanic wannabe. I have tools and I can do some things. Everyone needs to stop ragging everyones asses in here and try to get along. As far as Jet's old lady giving him a hard time...., I feel that fully. because I am doing 1 of 3 things at any given time. 1. I am driving my supra. 2. I am underneath it trying to figure out what's wrong with it. 3. I am on here hoping someone can tell me what's up because I'm not seeing it, and it's usually due to a lack of patients on my part.

 

[supramacist]

s far as my car goes have a 1 track mind. I forget about everything till it's fixed. I am pretty secure in the power steering pump. What I truley need to knoe is if there is any way to get the oil pan out without lifting the engine. I figure while the power steering pump is out, that should make for an opportune time to look into seeing if I can find a way to get it out. Again, i'm sorry if I ruffled feathers. But the bottom line is that i come here looking for help and sometimes the motivation to tackle something that I really know I have no business doing. I appreciate all of you that read my posts, wether you respond or not. thanks

 

[suprabad]

Btw, it's spelled "moron"

I know how to spell moron...but I was on the phone with my boss and his last name is Moran, you do the math.

 

[Mosupra9]

hey ive been reading this thing and i kind of have the same problem...fotosoup is except i alredy flushed the radiotor..but when im on the freeway the temp rises....i gueass i should reflush it properly...also there is posibilites i might have a BHG but i dont want that to happen...the seels one the block look newer...they r ORANGE....might be new headgasket or wathver i also checked the oil and its seeems fine...no bubbling or milk shake...the collant is fine tooo....so whats the problem???

 

[johnathan1]

Did you burp your system? Also, how is your fan clutch?

 

[Joel W.]

Mo: It sounds like a stuck/sticky thermostat to me. If you are sure that you are not loosing coolant after burping it, see if it still does it, Then try a good thermostat.

 

[Mosupra9]

so u dont thinks its the BHG??? cuz i checked oil and its looks fine..no milky shit or anytin...and coolant is as green as ever...reaaly clean...also im not losing any oil or coolant..are there any tests i can do to see if i have BHG?? thanks alot guys...but ya im doin the thermostat and all tomorw or friday...

 

[Joel W.]

If it is not loosing coolant, I doubt it is a BHG..Here is a block tester that I was looking at, I have no idea how or if it works..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33602&item=8029300233

 

[fiyota]

If it is not loosing coolant, I doubt it is a BHG..Here is a block tester that I was looking at, I have no idea how or if it works..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33602&item=8029300233

take it to a shop and get them to test the coolant for exhaust gases... that will tell you for sure.. it's a hydrocarbon test or something like that.

Ya, start with a good thermostat (toyota, not some napa one or something)... and a new rad cap just to be sure (they aren't too expensive, again go with toyota)... I had my hg replaced and I still have a bit of air in my system since they did the flush/burb, i put in a thermostat from napa in, and apparently there are two rad caps for my car (different parts of the year have different length filler necks on the rad)... so i'm going to go to toyota and check on the other rad cap and a new thermostat and see if that gets the air out of the system.. the mechanic was saying that the atmospheric valve could be sticky or something like that on my current rad cap.

 

[bigaaron]

Problems like this are common before you get a full blown bhg. It's possible for high cylinder pressures to seep past the gasket but for coolant not to be burned. Also, on a 7m cooling system with a good rad cap, no leaks, properly filled overflow bottle, and no bhg there is no need to "burp the system", it will expel air in the system (or cavitation or whatever it's called) on its own and suck in coolant from the overflow bottle as it cools. Of that I am sure. On a 7m: If it looks like a bhg, smells like a bhg, and overheats like a bhg..........its probably a bhg.

 

[fiyota]

they only torqued my head bolts to 55ft/lbs x3... so after I replace my rad cap and thermostat and I cant get rid of the air i'm taking it back to them and they will have to do a second bhg on there dime.... they said they would stand by there work and if they dont, then well, we have some good lawyers.

 

[bigaaron]

they only torqued my head bolts to 55ft/lbs x3... so after I replace my rad cap and thermostat and I cant get rid of the air i'm taking it back to them and they will have to do a second bhg on there dime.... they said they would stand by there work and if they dont, then well, we have some good lawyers.

I think you are doing the right thing by checking everything out first. Do the block test and go from there. At this point in my 7m experience I would not recommend anyone use a stock head gasket on a 7m-gte engine. IMHO it is just throwing money away. I'm sure some would disagree but that's the way it is.

 

[fiyota]

I think you are doing the right thing by checking everything out first. Do the block test and go from there. At this point in my 7m experience I would not recommend anyone use a stock head gasket on a 7m-gte engine. IMHO it is just throwing money away. I'm sure some would disagree but that's the way it is.

Ya... putting anything other than a mhg on a gte is a waste of money... might as well do it right the first time on those motors than having to do it twice and spend the same amount (if not more than doing a mhg the first time).. but for the ge, I'm not running a lot of power through it and it's not going to get too hot so a stock hg should be fine... it's not a toyota one tho