Advantage/Disadvantages of moving the radiator to the back?

[Yellow 13]

Major downside would be cutting into the structure of a unitised body shell....

Even if it was just cutting out the red area between the frame rails?

I only plan on removing the floor pan and eventually the car will have a full cage. I think I can make up for removing the floor by adding a bar or two.

 

[speed]

Where is that pic of Warf putting his hand on his forhead and shaking his head when you need it?

 

[Yellow 13]

Where is that pic of Warf putting his hand on his forhead and shaking his head when you need it?

Be helpful or GTFO.

 

[IJ.]

Ok assuming you do brace it enough where do you plan on running the coolant lines?

They're going to need to be minimum 20mm id so figure are 25mm od.

 

[Yellow 13]

Ok assuming you do brace it enough where do you plan on running the coolant lines?

They're going to need to be minimum 20mm id so figure are 25mm od.

Huurrr...To the engine? :biglaugh:

Where are you getting 20mm, the stock hose I measure was only a little more than 8mm across.

Anyways Ill just run them along the passenger side floor up to where the stock heater lines came into the car, drill the whole out, then run them to the engine. Anything wrong with that? :icon_conf

 

[IJ.]

Huurrr...To the engine? :biglaugh:

Where are you getting 20mm, the stock hose I measure was only a little more than 8mm across.

Anyways Ill just run them along the passenger side floor up to where the stock heater lines came into the car, drill the whole out, then run them to the engine. Anything wrong with that? :icon_conf

WTF is 8mm?

We are talking about moving the radiator to the back of the car aren't we?
(or am I totally confused)

 

[Yellow 13]

WTF is 8mm?

We are talking about moving the radiator to the back of the car aren't we?
(or am I totally confused)

vvv

Ok assuming you do brace it enough where do you plan on running the coolant lines?

They're going to need to be minimum 20mm id so figure are 25mm od.

:icon_conf :icon_conf :icon_conf

 

[IJ.]

WHAT IS 8MM?

 

[Yellow 13]

WHAT IS 8MM?

The diameter of the stock coolant hose.

 

[IJ.]

Do you know how small 8mm is?
(vacc hose is 8mm od)

Not being a cock or anything but are you challenged in any way?

 

[speed]

I'll bet you your car it isn't. it *Might* be the thickness of the hose wall, but the hose diameter is NOT 8mm. And IJ, for a 25mm od that'd be a 2.5mm wall thickness- shouldn't he go considerably thicker than that (assuming rubber hose and not braided) especially if he's going to be racing it? Thats a lot of fluid being exposed to a lot of potential damaging items.

 

[IJ.]

I'd be plumbing something like that in hardline not rubber but my point was there is NOWHERE under an a70 chassis to run 2 lines that size.......

Running through the car is totally unacceptable.

 

[Yellow 13]

Not being a cock or anything but are you challenged in any way?

Yes, and I misread my tape measurer. The total lenth of the tape measurer is 7.5m and has that printed just above where I was reading the diameter. I took it for 7.5mm.

Running through the car is totally unacceptable.

Why so?

They run them inside the car for NASCAR?

 

[Facime]

Do you know how small 8mm is?
(vacc hose is 8mm od)

Not being a cock or anything but are you challenged in any way?

ROFL!
Sig material! priceless

 

[jetjock]

As someone who owns a car with the radiator and engine at opposite ends I can tell you it involves a complicated mess of plumbing and has to be done right. Even then it causes occasional grief.

 

[americanjebus]

Hey man i know its bad when IJ starts giving you flack but in all honestly. If you have a shell that is ready to be tested w/ i say go for it. Im just interested in seeing it done.

Yes, and I misread my tape measurer. The total lenth of the tape measurer is 7.5m and has that printed just above where I was reading the diameter. I took it for 7.5mm.

But i'd address this issue first ^

It may not be the most cost effective move of the century but the things your going to overcome in the process of this project will answer other questions or pave the way for OTHER ideas.

Go for it man, like the guy that made the 240 it shouldnt cost you much. if i remember correctly he was the biggest underdog w/ the smallest budget relying mainly on 2nd hand parts to create that thing.

 

[adampecush]

Why so?

They run them inside the car for NASCAR?

Based upon what I have read in this thread, you're going to want to keep those lines outside the cabin so when (not if) they blow, you won't be sprayed with 180F coolant.

 

[MDCmotorsports]

Why so?

They run them inside the car for NASCAR?

Denied.

Nascar prohibits engine cooling lines inside the cockpit due the possibility of burns.

Furthermore, you must make the firewall (both front and rear) as solid as possible.

You never want hot liquid inside the car near you. You also do not want fuel lines inside the car with you, unless you are wearing fire resistant clothing at all times.

Based upon what I have read in this thread, you're going to want to keep those lines outside the cabin so when (not if) they blow, you won't be sprayed with 180F coolant.

Try 210 deg.....

Edit, just looked at Dent Sport Garage's website.

All I can say is, YIKES. (Welding and the whole well uh yeah)

 

[Supracentral]

210 in traffic maybe.

On the road course, realistically about 230. Regardless this is one of the worst ideas I've seen in a long time... The return on investment is minimal, it's functionally inferior and a maintainence and upkeep nightmare, IMO.

But to each his own... Not my ride, not my call.

 

[adampecush]

lol, sorry guys....either way, I wouldn't want to be sprayed with hot coolant, nor would I want that extra turbulence within the cabin...