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OneJoeZee said:
I'm gonna need proof of this 610 stock twin Supra that was mentioned...
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:)....I was wondering if anybody was going to mention this. :icon_bigg
He's not a internet type of guy. He's like a 40 year old family guy, never at home, always working (Co-owner of a big company), that has a 97 Limited Edition MKIV and a 96 Eclipse GSX...Both complete monsters.

I wouldn't lie about his numbers. He doesn't normally drive the Supra with the amount of boost that was applied during his dyno session. I just moved about a month ago so even if I could get a copy of his dyno sheet or something, I would have to drive back to Shelbyville to even get it.

Like I said, It was just a one time thing when he dynoed and his car is in PERFECT condition. Garage Kept with a Car cover on when he's not driving it.
He IS Auto, fully built level 10 with a 4200 stall. He's basically touched everything under the hood of the car EXCEPT the turbo's.

He ran an 11.73 in 2002...EXTREMELY quick car but even with his daily-driven boost levels, you can tell the turbo's are at risk.
He only had about 17,000 miles on the car when he went to the track, so I'm not sure how many miles he has on it now...but it's just a daily driver for him, his Eclipse is his "embarass ricers on the street" car.

Anyways, If I do ever make my way back down to my old town, I'll try to stop by and take pictures of his stuff or something...:icon_conf Don't really know what else I can do...

Jeff
 
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I'm still skeptical, dude. Don't take it personally. More than doubling the stock horsepower using the stock turbos is hard to believe.

As far as I'm concerned, Stu Hagen still has the record for highest hp using CT12Bs and his are actually modified. That's at almost 2bar of boost as well. I don't see how ~80 horsepower could be gained over this kind of setup without a big shot of nitrous.

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366459&highlight=stu+hagen

600hp could have easily been an error in the dyno or operator.
 
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OneJoeZee said:
I'm still skeptical, dude. Don't take it personally. More than doubling the stock horsepower using the stock turbos is hard to believe.

As far as I'm concerned, Stu Hagen still has the record for highest hp using CT12Bs and his are actually modified. That's at almost 2bar of boost as well. I don't see how ~80 horsepower could be gained over this kind of setup without a big shot of nitrous.

http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?t=366459&highlight=stu+hagen

600hp could have easily been an error in the dyno or operator.
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I'm not doubting at all that there could have been a dyno error...
Although, with an ET time of 11.7, I would think that is somewhere on target for having a highly modified Auto. I don't know. All I know is that I can DEFINATELY stand beside his 11.7 run...The dyno could be off...but there is no doubt that it's putting down some amazing numbers.
I've never seen his compressor wheels to actually verify that they are stock...but he's always told me that they were stock twin turbo's.
Maybe he's just referring to it being stock twin "housings" and he is upgraded. If he is upgraded, then maybe Stu Hagen has some serious competition;)...Because as I said, this guy brings in serious dough and has no business street racing or anything like that...he's not the type of guy to BS around or joke with anyone. (He's actually quite intimidating when you first meet him, looks like a really buff Mr. Clean:biglaugh: ).
Anyways, I don't know. I can't vouche for him on the dyno being accurate...But I'll see what kind of information I can gather when I get around to or find a reason to go visit him.

Jeff
 
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11.7 is not too hard to attain for a strong bpu auto car with good driving. Hell, the stock twin drag record is a high 10 IIRC and that's no where near 600hp...
 
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Hmm...I didn't think it was quite 10 seconds...but I'm not too sure.
Either way, he's got an extremely fast Supra and he dynoed those numbers...but as you said, the settings could have been way off or the dyno operator didn't know what he was doing.:dunno:
 
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Isnt this thread supposed to be about a 2j-mk3 swap? lol. And yeah, That car sponsorships place does seem like it has some good deals, I signed up for it and never got charged cause i got my bank to block it, But i still got to look around. The only thing i think they can rip you off on is shipping. And they say if you win a hot import nights car show trophy, any 1,2 or 3, everything is free up to like 2500$ or something. And if you win any car show 1 2 or 3 trophy you get some % back. It seems like an ok deal. But back on track, I would agree with them, and def try building a 3 or 400 hp 7mgte car before you go wanting to put in an 800 rwhp capable motor in. 300 = quite fun :)
 
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:icon_evil ok back on track. I want 600-800hp to out run a 300zx twin turbo and a mitsubishi vr4 both are tuned up quite a bit. Please answer my questions why is one turbo better than 2 I am a noob to turbos. I have drove a 400hp car and like I said I am an adrenilain junky. what would be the cheapest way to get my desired hp.
Quite being harshthanks but I know what I want I thought you would understand:1zhelp:
 
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flopp said:
:icon_evil ok back on track. I want 600-800hp to out run a 300zx twin turbo and a mitsubishi vr4 both are tuned up quite a bit. Please answer my questions why is one turbo better than 2 I am a noob to turbos. I have drove a 400hp car and like I said I am an adrenilain junky. what would be the cheapest way to get my desired hp.
Quite being harshthanks but I know what I want I thought you would understand:1zhelp:
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First off, What Mitsu VR4 are you referring to?

Next. How do you know what you want if you don't understand why 1 big turbo is better than 2?

I'll beat around the bush a little bit with this one...but base line is:
A medium-size Single turbo spools as quickly as the stock twin's do.
When it comes to what is "better", that's an opinion.
But the fact's of what flows more air and better are clear.
A big single, although means having to sacrafice some lag, ultimately means MORE POWER. Plain and simple.

Just as an example...
A quarter mile track is 1320ft (more or less).
It only makes sense to benefit from a big turbo with something like this because despite the lag, you'll only be traveling probably 35-50 feet without spool, so once you do begin spool, assuming your RPMS stay high, the remaining 1270-1290 feet will be all about how much power and air flow there is. Make sense?

Jeff

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And just for the record, trying to beat another car "street racing" or at the track has to do with ALL other aspect's of the car EXCEPT for horsepower. Yes, having power is important, but it's all about how you use that power. IE. If you're so settled on beating this Mitsu & Z, then consider working up on a fully built 3 speed gear box transmission and then you can probably beat them with half the horsepower. Just a thought.
 
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flopp said:
:icon_evil ok back on track. I want 600-800hp to out run a 300zx twin turbo and a mitsubishi vr4 both are tuned up quite a bit. Please answer my questions why is one turbo better than 2 I am a noob to turbos. I have drove a 400hp car and like I said I am an adrenilain junky. what would be the cheapest way to get my desired hp.
Quite being harshthanks but I know what I want I thought you would understand:1zhelp:
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What budget do you have?
(Man I almost choked typing "budget" when talking about an 800hp build)
 
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If you're talking about doing it the 'cheapest way possible' then you're not in the right mindset to do this.

'Quit' being harsh? It seems like you're looking for us to confirm what you think you want and are getting upset because we aren't doing that.
 
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