I just did a 2jz swap with stock tt and auto trans. Its not cheap. I had mine done in NY. When all said and done it was a bit over $12,000. Includes engine and trans, ic w/pipes, rewiring of the harness and all of the incidentals to get the car running with full dyno tuning. Still have a few bugs to get out.
2jz engine swap quote......scam or not? Opinions please
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GOD DAMN!!!!!
my buddy did his own with a 5 speed swap in it and IC and IC piping, the wiring, AND AEM on top and it wasn't over 6K
jesus save 6K and do it yourself
my buddy did his own with a 5 speed swap in it and IC and IC piping, the wiring, AND AEM on top and it wasn't over 6K
jesus save 6K and do it yourself
Pfft...just build your 7M...it's a great engine as long as it's built properly, by someone with the knowledge and 7M experience...and you said you have a 7M specialist close to you...
Yea 12k is too much to save up for right now. I think I'll be getting that rebuild done for 3500 and adding some insurance with metal HG, arps, and maybe some forged intenals from the specialists.
Thanks for the suggestions yall.
Thanks for the suggestions yall.
I am almost close to finish my 2jzgte project on my 90' mk3...
Bought the Aristo motor with 4000 $ shiped to my door from Japan.
(I am located in Athens,Greece and I paid 1400$ for shipping :evil2: )
I am doing 70% of the work alone.I paid almost 1500 $ to a mechanic
who is also a very good friend to do the heavy work! We checked the
main crank bearings and rod bearings to be sure,and some other stuff...
I thought with 6000-7000 $ I will finish the swap :nono:
Guess what,I am done 80% and I have spend almost 10.000 $ till now :aigo:
It is not an easy job....IT NEEDS TIME...A LOT OF TIME !!!! And MONEY !!!
Don't mention the little favours that you need to get from friends and shops!
It is not only the motor to be had...(I had the R-154 trans already)
You will also need:
# Custom wiring
# 1jz Flywheel (90% of all 2jz are auto...ebay etc.)
# Clutch & disc (since we have a 2jz and soon will make big power,now is
the chance that we have the trans on sight.
# 1jz bellhousing
# Custom Downpipe
# Custom IC pipes
# Silicon hoses for vacuum and IC,and various clamps
# Many custom built brackets for new parts. (For example the aristo ignitor
is located on the right side :naughty: ,and need to install it there)
# 2jzgte Throttle cable
# Custom cruise actuator cable
# 2jzgte front sump oil pan (2 pieces)
# 2jzgte buffle for the oil pan
# 2jzgte oil strainer
# 2jzgte new gaskets
# 2jzgte oil level dip stick and tube
# 1jzgte oil filter bracket (got a sandwich adapter for valves and didn't fit)
# 7m oil pressure valve for gauge cluster (got new cause 7m was sold)
# 7m water temp. valve for gauge cluster (got new cause 7m was sold)
# 7m,two air condition valves (we need them for the elec.fan when a/c is on)
# Custom adapters for the valves (coolant hose adaptors)
# PS reservoir,pressure line,return hoses
# A/C custom lines
# 2jzgte mechanic water pump
# 2jzgte mechanic water pulley
# 2jzgte coupling
# 2jzgte fan
# coolant hoses (for heater pipes on the firewall)
and many other small parts & things that are important for a correct swap!
Bought the Aristo motor with 4000 $ shiped to my door from Japan.
(I am located in Athens,Greece and I paid 1400$ for shipping :evil2: )
I am doing 70% of the work alone.I paid almost 1500 $ to a mechanic
who is also a very good friend to do the heavy work! We checked the
main crank bearings and rod bearings to be sure,and some other stuff...
I thought with 6000-7000 $ I will finish the swap :nono:
Guess what,I am done 80% and I have spend almost 10.000 $ till now :aigo:
It is not an easy job....IT NEEDS TIME...A LOT OF TIME !!!! And MONEY !!!
Don't mention the little favours that you need to get from friends and shops!
It is not only the motor to be had...(I had the R-154 trans already)
You will also need:
# Custom wiring
# 1jz Flywheel (90% of all 2jz are auto...ebay etc.)
# Clutch & disc (since we have a 2jz and soon will make big power,now is
the chance that we have the trans on sight.
# 1jz bellhousing
# Custom Downpipe
# Custom IC pipes
# Silicon hoses for vacuum and IC,and various clamps
# Many custom built brackets for new parts. (For example the aristo ignitor
is located on the right side :naughty: ,and need to install it there)
# 2jzgte Throttle cable
# Custom cruise actuator cable
# 2jzgte front sump oil pan (2 pieces)
# 2jzgte buffle for the oil pan
# 2jzgte oil strainer
# 2jzgte new gaskets
# 2jzgte oil level dip stick and tube
# 1jzgte oil filter bracket (got a sandwich adapter for valves and didn't fit)
# 7m oil pressure valve for gauge cluster (got new cause 7m was sold)
# 7m water temp. valve for gauge cluster (got new cause 7m was sold)
# 7m,two air condition valves (we need them for the elec.fan when a/c is on)
# Custom adapters for the valves (coolant hose adaptors)
# PS reservoir,pressure line,return hoses
# A/C custom lines
# 2jzgte mechanic water pump
# 2jzgte mechanic water pulley
# 2jzgte coupling
# 2jzgte fan
# coolant hoses (for heater pipes on the firewall)
and many other small parts & things that are important for a correct swap!
One point though - a lot of the stuff listed are things that people put in for their 7M as an upgrade anyway - saying that they would be required for a 2j swap really isnt totally accurate.
Look at my build thread - on the first page I have some links posted that explain some of the costs in detail.
If you go with a GE block you dont need a rear sump pan. It comes that way. Also, the IC pipes for the 7m match up pretty close.
I edited your list to show things that you would definately need that are UNIQUE to a 2j swap.
Yeah - a lot of these things dont have to be purchased if you just use a 2jzge.
Look at my build thread - on the first page I have some links posted that explain some of the costs in detail.
If you go with a GE block you dont need a rear sump pan. It comes that way. Also, the IC pipes for the 7m match up pretty close.
I edited your list to show things that you would definately need that are UNIQUE to a 2j swap.
SupraClaou said:
Yeah - a lot of these things dont have to be purchased if you just use a 2jzge.
I know that Aristo 2jz is pain in the ass to get on with :naughty:
I got the motor and didn't know enything about aristos :aigo:
...For sure if you get a supra 2jz things are better and you may
save about a grand,but for a good and complete swap you still
have to be prepare to give 10.000 $ for sure.
I will show you a foto of my engine bay soon,and you'll understand :biglaugh:
I like things to be almost perfect and look like factory finish.:icon_razz
...I even bought the caution and information plates/labels for 2jz-gte to put
them on my mk3 (you know,vacuum info,drive belt info,maintenence info) :sarcasm:
I got the motor and didn't know enything about aristos :aigo:
...For sure if you get a supra 2jz things are better and you may
save about a grand,but for a good and complete swap you still
have to be prepare to give 10.000 $ for sure.
I will show you a foto of my engine bay soon,and you'll understand :biglaugh:
I like things to be almost perfect and look like factory finish.:icon_razz
...I even bought the caution and information plates/labels for 2jz-gte to put
them on my mk3 (you know,vacuum info,drive belt info,maintenence info) :sarcasm:
talking to a guy at the toytoa dealership and he said they would do a full swap (2jz into a s2000) for 5500. so i think if you can get it done at another shop for 1000 go for it and spend the saved money on other parts needed
Well I've decided 2jz is too expensive at this point in time. To save up 12k would take almost a year and I'm not going to wait for that ontop of the 6 months I have already waited.
I'll prolly do it in the future when I'm saving up and it suprises me that I've reached that 12k point.....then do it.
So 7m or 1jz is now the engines to choose from.
I'll prolly do it in the future when I'm saving up and it suprises me that I've reached that 12k point.....then do it.
So 7m or 1jz is now the engines to choose from.
12k is not accurate. I think you could get a working Stinger setup for:
1300 - Turbo XS kit http://www.clubna-t.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2037
400 - Nice Exhaust
1000 - Stinger EMS and sensors (driftmotion can help you)
400 - 2jzge engine w/auto trans
150 - Cometic MHG
500 - Incidentals
3750 to get it on the road
Below are optional if you decide to go with the R154 and ditch the auto:
300 - 1jz bellhousing + 400 for a low-cost clutch like RPS max or ACT (I recommend against these types of clutches)
1500 - Nice carbonetic twin-plate clutch (flywheel/pp/discs included - ends up being about 1k more than purchasing 1jz flywheel/pp/and disc but is much easier on your engine and more durable)
You also have to consider that a lot of those costs will be something you will incur anyway with upgrades on the 7m or 1jz.
Also, there are people running the 2jz on stock 7mGTE electronics. You could go with a stock 7M ecu and put a CPS in the distributor hole of the 2jzge. The engine position sensors are really the only unique aspect to the computer as far as the 7m vs 2j is concerned. Everything else is the same or similar enough to wire in. I think that even the AFM on the 2jzge is the same as the 7mgte.
1300 - Turbo XS kit http://www.clubna-t.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2037
400 - Nice Exhaust
1000 - Stinger EMS and sensors (driftmotion can help you)
400 - 2jzge engine w/auto trans
150 - Cometic MHG
500 - Incidentals
3750 to get it on the road
Below are optional if you decide to go with the R154 and ditch the auto:
300 - 1jz bellhousing + 400 for a low-cost clutch like RPS max or ACT (I recommend against these types of clutches)
1500 - Nice carbonetic twin-plate clutch (flywheel/pp/discs included - ends up being about 1k more than purchasing 1jz flywheel/pp/and disc but is much easier on your engine and more durable)
You also have to consider that a lot of those costs will be something you will incur anyway with upgrades on the 7m or 1jz.
Also, there are people running the 2jz on stock 7mGTE electronics. You could go with a stock 7M ecu and put a CPS in the distributor hole of the 2jzge. The engine position sensors are really the only unique aspect to the computer as far as the 7m vs 2j is concerned. Everything else is the same or similar enough to wire in. I think that even the AFM on the 2jzge is the same as the 7mgte.