1000hp 7m? parts list?

figgie

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GrimJack;905253 said:
Among other things, I can count the number of times he's been proven wrong on my thumbs.

...You mean like the time, that in the Book of testaments, Moses along with his buddy Ian, stood fast and parted the red sea! But he insists it is a big fat lie!! ;)
 

IJ.

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Doward;905716 said:
To Mr. WOT:
1) Wow. Wrong guy to pick an argument with, man. IJ is right - a true sleeving of the 7M block will destroy torsional rigidity. We're talking virgin blocks with around 1/2 cm of cylinder wall between the cylinders. I'll be more than happy to bust out the calipers after class tonight and provide the exact numbers.
2) Filled block != street machine. Sorry.

To Brian:
1) When are you going to have that beast done????

Dow: LOL it's actually 1/4"/ .250 between the bores ;)
 
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Still waiting....
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89mkiii18;905458 said:
i own an 800hp beast

AF1JZ;905476 said:

IJ.;905500 said:
Vids and a dyno sheet ;)

Subscribed to this too :)

Duane
 

buldozr

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wow, when I had my shortblock on the stand, there wasnt ANY ROOM between cyl... that means no oring HG's... also means no room for sleeves... In all honesty, the 7m is 'OK' at best, their are too many better motors to start from, the mitsu 6g72/6g74 and the toyota JZ series are a better platform to start from, the 6G alone can take a .100 to .120 overbore, they just have more room to play being a V6 setup, 7m's dont, FACT. The 6G and JZ heads flow awesome numbers stock, 7m's not so much... For reliable 400hp and great street torque, I like the 7m, for a drag car though, 500+cube blown hemi FTMFW! Me and IJ had a great post about what the definition of a street car was, I stated that I would feel comfortable for my mother to get in it and for me not to worry about her or the car. That is a true 'street' car.
 

buldozr

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CORRECTION: Unless your IJ's mom :) She probably drives a Peripheral Port RX wagon thats been tubbed... Groceries is not a mundane job, its an adventure!
 

Slow66

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Doward;905716 said:
To Brian:
1) When are you going to have that beast done????

Just got my custom aluminum rods in today!

Now i just need custom pistons and a billet crank to compliment them :)
 

Quin

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Seriously, pics of this TA or GTFO. You don't seem to have enough intelligence to make the money required for either of these cars to exist.

89mkiii18;905458 said:
experience? lmao iv driven fast cars i own an 800hp beast inexperience is not my problem and i did not mean to start a fight about this my conclusion is that il go for more like 600 750 i have rebuilt my motor in my supra a number of times i just was asking for opinions i know what i need to buy to make the numbers i just choose to get another mans opinion is that ok? damn well anyways thank you guys for your words of wisdome il look at some of the other build forums for some suggestions on my new numbers and by the way i own a house and property and two other vehicles i have two children and i have my ways set money is not an issue for me well we will see what happens look foward to my build forum...

Something else that stuck out. If you knew what you were doing (excluding people like IJ, who randomly have to have some impossible, entirely custom set up :)) and made the money you claim to have, you would have only done it once. The right way.

I'm sorry, but unless you post up a pic that can clearly prove that YOU own the car pictured, and additional evidence to support the 800hp claim, I'm marking you as a 12 year old that likes to lie to seem important.
 

foreverpsycotic

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Wow, you want to go from numbers achievable from a 57 trim CT26 to numbers that twin 61mm would hit on race gas? And I thought I was going to be scared shitless when I go from stock twins to a holset HX35.

Have fun, and enjoy sinking almost 100k into your build.

And If you think an off the shelf IC is going to support 1krwhp, GL with that. Might as well go air to water, or no IC at all, just meth spraying into the charge pipe, and a lot of it.
 

turbodriz

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Well I felt that somebody needed to stand up for the 7m after this thread. :1zhelp: I feel that it is capable of those type of numbers. It is just going to require money. In saying that doesn't anything that makes a 1000hp require money to build. Speed is not cheap.
 

Nick M

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I was thumbing through a new(to me) Turbo magazine. It had all the usual suspects of build ups. When they did the 2JZ-GTE this time, the owner mentioned he dumped $126,000 into the car so far. For 950 rwhp.
 

cactus_mole

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Nick M;906264 said:
I was thumbing through a new(to me) Turbo magazine. It had all the usual suspects of build ups. When they did the 2JZ-GTE this time, the owner mentioned he dumped $126,000 into the car so far. For 950 rwhp.

Damn! was he building it to go to the moon?
 

Boost Lee

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cactus_mole;906284 said:
Damn! was he building it to go to the moon?

No, he was building it to precision.

Nick - You certainly seemed to fall off the face of the earth. Glad to see back. :)

IIRC, I know which Turbo magazine article you're talking about. The entire car was built (like I said), to precision and everything looked way to perfect. :icon_razz

In regards to "Can a 7M be capable of 1000hp"....Yes.
It's happened acouple times already (that I know of), but it's not as common mostly because:

A) Simply put, most people don't have that kind of money to spend
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B) Most guys that have the quadruple horsepower digit mentality end up going with a 2JZ because while you'll still be spending just as much money as building a 7M, it's going to be achieved a little bit quicker since the overall design of a 2JZ is more capable.

-Jeff
 

buldozr

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CLIFF NOTES:
1. 1000hp possible from a 7m? - Anything is possible if money is available.
2. 1000hp possible for the street? - Define 'street' which will be different for each person... Possible-yes, fun-probably, stupid-definitely.
3. Will I get flamed for talking about IJ's mom... That is the real question. :)

/thread
 

MRSUPRA

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I read on Supraforums that it takes $1000 to make 1000rwhp on a 2JZ and $100,000 to make 1000rwhp on 7M. Is this true? Because I believe.
 

Adrian98

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MRSUPRA;906491 said:
I read on Supraforums that it takes $1000 to make 1000rwhp on a 2JZ and $100,000 to make 1000rwhp on 7M. Is this true? Because I believe.

what's the difference between a 600hp and 1000hp supra?
nothing they both do 12s in the 1/4
 

leach

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I do not see anything about head studs. Do not think the ARP kit with the 8740 moly studs will do! Unless you like replacing short blocks! I have been working with Justin at ARP for a set of the new 625 material head stud. They are just as strong as the L-19 material but do not have the corrosion problem. The price for one set is 1644.02. I know, WOW. The good news is that the price goes down with the more sets that are made. For 2 sets the price drop to 1100.00 per set and for 3 set it drops to 900.00 per set. I am also working with Chris at Sound Performance Racing (630-893-5002) and Tim at RREV Motorsports (503-289-4020) to try to contact as many 7M guys as they can find that are looking to make big HP numbers. The price keeps getting better all the way to 10 sets. Lets all band together and beat the high price of making high HP 7MGTEs. Imagine at 1400HP 7MGTE!