XS copy VS Aeromotives FPR (lots of pics inside)

[TurboStreetCar]

Wow, your monitor must really suck balls. Or maybe you're blind? There are rust stains on the spring. There is no way in hell I would run fuel through that unit, even if fuel doesn't run on that side. The spring is flawed.

i bet that spring is made of steel..... steel rusting isnt a flaw in steel its just a natural effect. maybe its not pretty enough for you but i doubt that the little surface rust is effecting its rate.

if you don't like it, buy an Aeromotive for more money. no ones forcing you to buy this one. and until theres actual evidence that the performance of this regulator is sub par, i cant see a problem with it, nor how you can justify saying its junk. theres different ways to achieve the same goal, because this regulator is slightly different in some areas doesn't mean its not going to work.

im not defending it nor am i saying its top of the line, but give it a chance. who knows it might work better for all you know.

 

[foreverpsycotic]

One question, if I were to get driftmotions FPR kit, would I be able to run the XSpower Regulator? I assume the fittings are all the same size.

Guys, XSpower makes some pretty decent stuff. If he trusts it on his MKIV (clean as hell from what I have heart) Ill trust it on my MKIII (considering I own his DP, WG and manifold as well.)

On www.clubna-t.com, I have seen tons of people using his turbo kits, and have seen NOTHING about them breaking. People have been beating the shit out of these things for a while, and they are holding up quite well.

EDIT:
here is a direct link to the FPR on CNA-T
http://www.clubna-t.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2055

 

[soapra]

The Main reasons why companies dont make Anything for our cars is this attitude. If it's a replica and it looks close to the original is ok to use. The chinese are good at R&D (Reserch & Duplicate) and that is the easy way to make a buck of some poor kid. When the car is on fire due to a fuel leak I'm sure we can count on
Hangzhou Keming Aluminium Co., Ltd. AKA Hangzhou Magicpower Racing Parts Ltd.
To pay out or rapair your pride and joy that you spend your hard earn money and maybe the only money you have!

 

[jmcboost]

I would be interested in hearing from people that have the XSpower FPR and see if they have had success with them or not. Anyone?

 

[BlackMKIII]

How about this. I'll no longer judge until I see testing results. Who among us is willing to test them both out on their car? Maybe the OP?

 

[bigaaron]

The biggest problem is obvious, look at the material used for the diaphram. The copy is using the same type of material used in blow off valves. That's what causes the cheap fpr's to leak. They all do sooner then later. I have no problem with copy bov's or wastegates, but I refuse to sell or use chinese fuel pressure regulators. If the diaphram leaks it could pump high pressure fuel right into your vacuum lines! Or if it doesn't regulate properly you could run lean have have engine damage.

 

[TurboStreetCar]

The Main reasons why companies dont make Anything for our cars is this attitude. If it's a replica and it looks close to the original is ok to use. The chinese are good at R&D (Reserch & Duplicate) and that is the easy way to make a buck of some poor kid. When the car is on fire due to a fuel leak I'm sure we can count on
Hangzhou Keming Aluminium Co., Ltd. AKA Hangzhou Magicpower Racing Parts Ltd.
To pay out or rapair your pride and joy that you spend your hard earn money and maybe the only money you have!

Would Aeromotive shell out money for a burned up car because of a UNIVERSAL part, YOU (meaning Anyone that ISNT an Aeromotive employee, not directed twards anyone specific) installed in your car? Also how do you know this AFPR WILL leak and cause your car to go up in flames? I guess Aeromotive's quality is so high that nothing from them will ever break or leak? Get over the brand name guys.....

As i said before, im not defending nor bashing any product real or fake, But give it a chance. if performance is sub par then fine its junk, but until theres actual justified evidence, who knows.

And the reason no companies make anything is because of this attitude of "well its not the real thing, its junk" and that theres no market. Besides our little community and some of the big shots like duane, Slow66 and Nate, theres isnt much interest.

 

[logan]

This guy didn't have very good luck with it .

Below is from = http://www.mkiiisupra.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=20719

" The ebay regulators are all copy cats, the closest one is from Xspower, it is indentical to the Aeromotive Kit in every way.

We Tested one of these for a few weeks - and the results were not good. The car started to run rich after a few weeks, and we found that the Regulator would not reduce Fuel pressure while under vaccum, but would increase during boost.
This was due to the rubber Diaphram inside, it has started to desintigrate and was leaking fuel into the vaccum chamber. Poor quality non Pretrolium freindly intertnals - not a good thing. "

 

[OneJoeZee]

This guy didn't have very good luck with it .

Below is from = http://www.mkiiisupra.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=20719

" The ebay regulators are all copy cats, the closest one is from Xspower, it is indentical to the Aeromotive Kit in every way.

We Tested one of these for a few weeks - and the results were not good. The car started to run rich after a few weeks, and we found that the Regulator would not reduce Fuel pressure while under vaccum, but would increase during boost.
This was due to the rubber Diaphram inside, it has started to desintigrate and was leaking fuel into the vaccum chamber. Poor quality non Pretrolium freindly intertnals - not a good thing. "

The biggest problem is obvious, look at the material used for the diaphram. The copy is using the same type of material used in blow off valves. That's what causes the cheap fpr's to leak. They all do sooner then later. I have no problem with copy bov's or wastegates, but I refuse to sell or use chinese fuel pressure regulators.

Looks like Aaron called it.

 

[BlackMKIII]

Looks like Aaron called it.

I knew it had something to do with that shitty rubber.

 

[7MGTEsup]

That is the only problem I have heard about on these regulators is the diaphragm is of low quality. Now if we could just get a supply of diaphramgs the other components should last as well as the aeromotive one.

 

[flubyux2]

the XS diaphragm looks exaclty like the material used in the WG's and the BOV's. ive taken the bovs and WG's apart and it seems to be a platinum catalyzed silicone impregnated against a fiber weave, probably polyester. i doubt its fiberglass or anything fire-retardant. and silicone is DEFINITLY Not Fuel-safe. i saw that coming as soon as i saw the pics in the first post.

the hardware however Appears to be the same. and the rust on the spring is inconsequential. its in the vaccum chamber and would not introduce rust particulate into the fuel system. besides, even if it was in the fuel stream, it wouldnt matter as its on the return side. any particulates would return to the tank and be strained out by the sock and/or filtered by the inline element. NBD people.

replace the XS diaphragme with an Aeromotive part and youll be fine. as long as the XS regulator raises fuel pressure 1:1 according to the boost reference, the Rate is adequate.

 

[supraguru05]

When the car is on fire due to a fuel leak I'm sure we can count on
Hangzhou Keming Aluminium Co., Ltd. AKA Hangzhou Magicpower Racing Parts Ltd.
QUOTE]


well for the amount they sell them they couldnt even buy you a new engine lol they

they sell these kits wholesale for <40 dollars

 

[buldozr]

When the car is on fire due to a fuel leak I'm sure we can count on
Hangzhou Keming Aluminium Co., Ltd. AKA Hangzhou Magicpower Racing Parts Ltd.
QUOTE]


well for the amount they sell them they couldnt even buy you a new engine lol they

they sell these kits wholesale for <40 dollars

Who in their right mind would put a warranty on a performance part, definitely a fuel component like that, thats like NIKE selling a shoe claiming that they warranty broken ankles, regardless of the tension of the laces... too much risk. Now I have seen fuel pressure diaphrams like those shown, both woven and non woven being sold in regular parts houses(oreilly's, autozone, checkers, etc...) just a cheap diaphram, looks remarkably similar to the one found in a 88-95 TBI chevy v8 pickup

 

[shaeff]

replace the XS diaphragme with an Aeromotive part and youll be fine. as long as the XS regulator raises fuel pressure 1:1 according to the boost reference, the Rate is adequate.

yep, that's what i was going to say. replace the diaphragm (and spring if it bothers you that much) with aeromotive parts, and you're good to go.

 

[williamb82]

anyone know how much those parts are from areomotive?

 

[pimptrizkit]

yep, that's what i was going to say. replace the diaphragm (and spring if it bothers you that much) with aeromotive parts, and you're good to go.

i dont think that would work, isn'/t the seat of the valve part of the diaphragm, if so their shaped differently. cone vs ball

 

[lintlars]

I believe it will work since the ball is the same on both units

 

[TurboStreetCar]

Either way it doesn't have to fully seal, just make a large enough restriction to control pressure.