Who Wants a Fabrication Section?????

[Rennat]

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1115741#post1115741

grimjack says we need the traffic and the threads to make it happen. so everybody who has a bunch of little pics on how to do stuff, yank them out of your build thread and speak up!!!!!

 

[KeithH]

I'm confused...

You want a fabrication section but want to fill it with tech tips? Hmmm... don't we already have a tech tips section?

Example: I have pics on swapping the Boost Gauge for the Voltmeter. I wouldn't classify this as fabrication (although I did have to "fabricate" a new jumper wire).

Please clarify.

So I have to vote... "uhh.... what?"

 

[Rennat]

Its also to get people to be more 'adventourous'... if you go look at the fabrication section on the hybridz forums (for motor swaped 240z's) theres PAGESSSSS of fabrication stuff, some just being info, but most being pictures.


and the 'tech tip' section has a lot of info on stuff... driveshaft speed calculator, year changes... and other stuff like that. i guess it would be up to the mods to move all of the actual 'fabrication' ones over to the new section...

 

[figgie]

double that...

fabricating an FFIM.. that be Ron for instance.

With the same breath, that sub-forum will go as good as my wiring thread... Way over the head of about 95% of everyone on here

 

[CRE]

I agree that there doesn't seem to be enough of what I would consider to be appropriate content. It's more likely to turn into a body repair group than anything... perhaps 5 threads by people making their own ITB and FFIM, but you can find those in the buil up section.

I'll look through the past several days posts and think about it more before I vote though.

 

[Rennat]

thats what i find 'silly'... you have all of this great stuff happening, but its in BUILD THREADS!... hidden away unless you check out every single thread to find out whats happening. if they made a thread for there exhaust maniold they were making, or the FFIM they were making... then it could be shared and accessed a TON easier.

 

[CRE]

Do we need that much redundant posting. Not only will people be inclined to simply mirror their build threads but you'll also end up with 30 different threads on how to build a FFIM and plenty more threads arguing over how you should build it and why their way is better. I see it becoming a mess, but I will consider it further. I'm going to need more to go on than "it's another place for people to post what they're making" for incentive though... and it'll probably require some heavy moderation.

 

[Rennat]

Do we need that much redundant posting. Not only will people be inclined to simply mirror their build threads but you'll also end up with 30 different threads on how to build a FFIM and plenty more threads arguing over how you should build it and why their way is better. I see it becoming a mess, but I will consider it further. I'm going to need more to go on than "it's another place for people to post what they're making" for incentive though... and it'll probably require some heavy moderation.

it would be place to display, not really discuss... like how the referance/tech section is.

and i dont think anybody has an entire build thread just on fabrication....

im just trying to get the idea out, something new, something that interest people, it seems like posting is down lately....


for those who have voted, just state why you want it or not want it... i like to hear your opinion.

 

[GrimJack]

I replied in the original thread. Cliffs: I don't think there's anything to be gained from a poll.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78589

 

[CRE]

it would be place to display, not really discuss... like how the referance/tech section is.

If you're referring to the SME section some of those have become a mess of more discussions than answers.

and i dont think anybody has an entire build thread just on fabrication....

Precisely, and they're just going to be dying to fill it in with more stuff just so it seems more impressive. Then there's the fact that hardly anyone who ever posts genuine threads about items they've fabricated really don't ever show more than 110 images of the final product.

If you want a "show & tell" section let's call it what it is.

im just trying to get the idea out, something new, something that interest people, it seems like posting is down lately....

I'm not disagreeable to the *concept*. I just don't see enough content coming in that's actually productive and of enough merit as to deserve it's own section.

I don't think this would generate any addition traffic. Merely relocate a very small percentage of existing traffic. Yes, it would be nice for sorting, but a tag system would be just as effective.

I would be in greater support of a write-up section where only the creator was allowed to post in the thread. A section devoted to nice clean and concise write-ups... I suspect this is kind of what was intended for the SME section but I don't really see that it's working. Don't get me wrong though, I can't complain about all the SME groups, I don't frequent them.

Another I would probably back more readily would be a sort of body shop 101 section. Collision repair, body customization, painting techniques and so on. Again, very little traffic in that arena though.


The number one thing I think we need lately is a little stricter moderation, fewer OT threads in General (while I care about CA harassing a MKIII owner and a guy accused of grand theft, the only place these belong is in OT), and for the newbie GTE owners to stop posting in the GE section.

 

[CRE]

I replied in the original thread. Cliffs: I don't think there's anything to be gained from a poll.

http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78589

At least that person posted it in the right section. :3d_frown

 

[Rennat]

i meant how the referance section is... theres a few by just ONE person where the ONLY person to add info was the original opener...

i just think a lot of people have done stuff, and recorded it, and just not posted up... or maybe im just thinking that MK3 owners make a lot more parts than not...

and if you think certain sections need more attention, PM a mod and tell them...


i made the poll to get an idea of what people think, its at least a step in the direction of something...

 

[SupraMario]

I would love a coustom fabrication forum. I love seeing unique work from people.

 

[black89t]

i to would like to have a fab section. i agree that there is a lot of good info in build threads, but who the hell has time to read through all the shit. having all good info in one bundle would be nice.

 

[CRE]

Tell you what, get people to start putting threads like this: http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78887 where they belong, such as the build up section and I'll give you my support for creating yet another section. (Nothing against the OP of that thread, just a good example.)

I don't see why fab threads don't fit here or in build up just fine. I can't think of more than 2 fab threads from the last year and one was N/A specific and he actually posted in the N/A section... The N/A one was also the only one which gave anything near useful information on how to build the part.

Personally more of the show and tell variety of posts (which you're just inviting more of) belong in the build up section.

This place needs a secretary to organize the muddled filing system. I think there are some things which would be better off to be separated, but I don't think there's sufficient traffic for this suggestion.
"I made a fog light into a head light..."
"Look I made a custom timing cover, sorry no pics of the process."
"Look, I bent a piece of sheet metal around mah turbo. Sorry, didn't measure anything or take pics when I was workin' on it... but it's cool eh?"

Ok, I'm done.... Definitely decided too.

How about we just rename the build up section "Show & Tell"?

 

[Doward]

No need for that. You know, some of us are doing our builds just because it is what WE want - and happen to share that with the general community.

I don't see the need for a Fabrication section. There are good fabrications, and there are bad ones. If you like something you see, PM the person that built it.

 

[upgradedsupra]

No need for that. You know, some of us are doing our builds just because it is what WE want - and happen to share that with the general community.

I don't see the need for a Fabrication section. There are good fabrications, and there are bad ones. If you like something you see, PM the person that built it.

I agree 100% and couldn't have said it any better myself.

Duane

 

[IJ.]

Those that can do those that can't most of the times shouldn't....

This may come off as harsh but many many times I'll post a detailed step by step "tip" in an effort to help someone and they still manage to get it 100% wrong.

I can see this turning to shit when someone "follows" advice given and for whatever reason they screw the pooch and get all butthurt, not to mention there are always many different ways to achieve the same result and this could be another source of possible conflict.

The staff have more than enough on their plates and don't really need another section to baby sit.

If specific answers are required I think the knowledgable guys here are well known and are usually happy to answer PM's and lend a hand (I know I do)

Again if it's a specific question asked it's usually answered promptly in the thread where it's posted.

 

[4U2QUIK]

but that could be said of any other section.
BTW I'm all for the fab section. I'm a inspector at a good sized machine shop, and I love to fab parts for my cars. I also like showing people what can be done.

 

[IJ.]

The difference being in most of the other sections if someone screws up the car doesn't run no harm no foul.

Fabricate something critical and it fails and people get hurt.

I stand by my statement above some people really "shouldn't".

The one saving grace for the Mk3 is MOST builds are never completed and are parted out before they get to a public road.

This may sound elitest and cockish but after seeing some of the "work" done here in the time I've been a member I'm horrified at some of the rolling retroactive abortion machines and happy most are on the other side of the world to me.

I'm all for the hands on do it yourself approach to building cars but always try and push people to seek out a mentor to guide them if they're newbies.

I lay the blame firmly on the unrealistic bullshit TV car modding shows, now EVERYONE thinks it's easy as bolting some parts on and going fast.