what's an alcoholic??

Supracentral

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DreamerTheresa;1306496 said:

I came here to say this - she's not kidding...

DreamerTheresa;1306496 said:
I'm one of those who refuses to believe that alcoholism is a disease. It's an addiction.

An alcoholic can wake up and say "You know, I'm not going to have a drink today."

A person with AIDS cannot wake up and say "You know, I'm not going to have AIDS today."

I agree. This is part of the politically correct bullshit that has infested and destroyed our society. Not every ailment or affliction is a disease.

And by the way, smoking isn't a disease. Nor is being fat. (Though some diseases can lead to it - different story...)
 

s383mmber1

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This is no thread for jokes, people. It takes a big step to realise that you have a problem, and secondly by posting this thread you have asked for help.

Is there any meeting (AA) that you can attend? Do you have any good friends who you can open up to and tell them your story? Sometimes it helps to have a friend to talk to, as ive been through this several times.

Feel free to send me a pm or something is you ever feel the need to talk to someone-

William
 

Mk3runner

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Yea I got people that deal with my bitchin.. I try to keep it to a minimum.. Lately it's been getting bad tho. I need to stay busy. I got my DUI classes starting in few days.. I'll see what that has to offer.
 

grimreaper

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If its anything like classes ive taken (court mandated), they are a joke. It was a place to tell "war stories". (ive been through quite a bit of them) . My parents spent more money then you can blink an eye at my last year of highschool keeping me out of state and out of reach of the life i knew. The only single thing that has me one my feet today is that i finally woke up and was sick and tired of being sick and tired. This point didnt come after the rehabs or the many AA sponsors and meetings. It was a year or two later that i understood why things werent going to be successful (or last for that matter) with out coping a different way. You can waste an awful lot of time and burn through relationships like gas if your not going to make a serious 100% decision. Half assing it will only last so long and it will be back to the same old issues....

Nothing i was forced to attend or go to kept me strait for more then a few weeks tops... nothing else (no judge, wife, mom, dad) is going to make it work and last except you. Its not easy, but the hardest things always pay off the most

I personally found AA to be quite shitty in the long run but to get you on your feet its quite a support group.
 

Poodles

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Exactly, therapy DOES NOT WORK unless YOU make the decision to do it and stick to it.

Going through the motions doesn't work, but you've done the first step and admitted you have a problem, now you ahve to make the choice to change it and get the help.

Usually alcohol is self-medicating for a larger issue, such as depression...
 

Mk3runner

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My mom has a drinking issue.. She told me my classes will basically teach me how to be a better drunk.. I seen all to well what drinking does. I found myself in another crunch. Now I have legal bs to deal with also. Idk just gotta re balance things I feel like I'm slipping back into a poorer choice me.. I can't allow that.
 

Mk3runner

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My moms a good person... But since I was little we would fight.. I been couch bouncing and ended up here after being on my own for near 4 years.. I went from having a house a well paid job to a apt to someones floor now to my moms.

It's been rough.
 

Mk3runner

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mattsplat72;1307500 said:
Did you check any of the information I gave you?

yeah i looked into some of it. i been logged in using my iphone. i got alot going on so i couldnt look at all of it. got bills and crap going on.

Poodles, yeah she drinks right now. not heavy. but yea.
 

eman2289

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On a serious note. I know someone very close to me who is an alcoholic and also Bi-Polar. My Dad.
The first thing you will realize is that their drinking level rises. From my view, a lot more of lemme just go make a drink and leave everyone that I was in the conversation with. He had a bar, so I eventually noticed that even while he was not physically drinking, he would always be in the vicinity of it. Almost as if it would give him the feeling. I also realized that he tended to "not feel like " doing anything. Things needed to be done such as paperwork and he would just blow them off. These are just a few of the things.

I know im gunna sound like everyone else, but the first step to recovery is to admit it. And ill tell you, from an outside view, it seems like the hardest thing he has ever done.

Edit:
Theresa: How did you get through it. He has been clean for over a year, but i think the bipolar is taking more of an effect on the family. Im only 19. Im trying to live life, but I constantly have to try and talk to my mom so she will stop crying. He just doesnt seem to give a shit about anything anymore. He owns a business and it started going down a few years back. Now with these rough times, we (I should say my mom, with the help of me) are selling off the stuff that he does not need or ever use. (32 foot Luhrs boat, 34 foot proline, 16 ft boston whaler, 2008 corvette, 1970 442, just to name some) The vette just sold today and he literally threw a hissyfit in his office. According to my mom, he broke lights, trashed his desk, he is literally acting like a 6 year old. I just dont know what to do. Did you go through any of this with your mom? if so, how did you get through it.

Kai: Did kicking the shot out of him work? Im 5' 11'' and about 150lbs. My dad is 6' 2'' and about 250. I know he would beat the shit out of me, but did your dad finally snap out of it afterwards? I dont know what else to do, and getting physical is the only idea i have left.
 

Mk3runner

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Ha, my moms is bi polar too.. She aint been on her meds in years.. Now I'm was just talking with her and now she's sick. An I got my DUI class in a hr 30