What are my options

[Icy Supra]

Hello, I have been lurking here fore some time now gathering info, and you seem to know every thing there is to know about the MK III Supra.
My story (short version)I´m from Iceland. I got a ´87 for free, (was looking for MK II to fix up) it had been sitting out side on a storage area for some 6 or 7 years, the guy who owned it blew the motor(not sure what happend, most likely bhg), took the motor out of the car, but never got the money to get it fixed and the machine shop who had the motor got tiered and threw the motor in the garbage.
So now I´m fixing up the car, I got all the body, breaks, steering and interior parts I need, got most of it from the U.K., but I have no motor and being in a country that only has two other MK III Supras it´s not easy finding parts.
So my options are: Import a motor, getting a 7m-ge (like the car originally had) sets my back over a 1500-2000$, geting a 2jz-get is like 6500-7000$.
There is one more option, getting a 2jz-ge from a Lexus here in Iceland, I can get the engine from a car that is being parted out, so I can get all the electrics whit it, but will it fit, is it a lot of modifications work ?
Please tell me every thing you can think of, maybe I am missing a option.


One pic of the car when I went to pick it up.

Please excuse my English.

 

[BorHor]

If it is easy to get a 2jz-ge I guess go with that. It will easily fit in the engine bay. You will need custom mounts or maybe order them from BIC.

 

[jdub]

Take a look at the "Other Engine Tech" section on swapping in different motors. You can do the 2J, but it is going to require custom work....the motor mounts for sure.

 

[sthmstr]

Sounds like most things will be pricey for you unfortunately. :-(

The 2jzge will fit but you need the motor mounts form BIC.. I think Driftmotion.com sells them too. Is your car an Auto or manual? That will change a few things too. If manual then you will need the 2/1J bellhousing to adapt to whatever trans you want to run. If auto then just rock the Auto out of the Lexus you get the 2J from. If lexus are common in your area you could even consider a 1uzfe 4.0 V8 from a GS/ LS/ SC400. Much more custom work, but rewarding for sure than a naturally aspirated inline 6. Hardest part there is converting to a manual trans, but if you have auto then much easier and the manual swaps are getting easier lately. Back to the inline motors.......... I have bought from Tiger japanese a couple times with mixed but mostly positive results. They want like $350.00 USD to ship a motor to the UK from Canada so maybe somewhere around that for where you're at. If that's the case you can get a 7mgte from them for $890.00, a 1jzgte for $1190.00 and a 2jzgte for like $2000.00. Then pay the shipping. So may not be as expensive as you were thinkin, although not sure how much it would cost to ship to Iceland.

I guess in summary there are many options, but gotta know some of the other variables to help more. Do you have auto or manual? Do you want turbo or no?

 

[tbcmorris]

you can also use 7m elctronics on the 2jzge...although i dont know if that helps becaxsue you dont have the 7m engine and its sensors

 

[Icy Supra]

I´m sorry for not having all the facts in my first post.
I have got the W58 manual transmission.
It´s not important to me to have a turbo, it´s ok tho.

I did talk to the guys at Tiger Japanese and the shipping to Iceland from Canada is 550$ plus I have to pay a lot of taxes an fees when importing stuff. :icon_frow It will be at least 1500$ to my door for a 7m ge.
Maybe it´s the best option.

 

[sthmstr]

I´m sorry for not having all the facts in my first post.
I have got the W58 manual transmission.
It´s not important to me to have a turbo, it´s ok tho.

I did talk to the guys at Tiger Japanese and the shipping to Iceland from Canada is 550$ plus I have to pay a lot of taxes an fees when importing stuff. :icon_frow It will be at least 1500$ to my door for a 7m ge.
Maybe it´s the best option.

No worries dude. Happy to help. So if you buy the 2j you gotta get a different bellhousing which will run you about $300.00, then special motor mounts which is another $150.00. To rock the V8 you will need to find a SC400 which is kinda tough in the states so not sure about Iceland. Then the full adapter kit is $1065.00. The 2j is gonna be only 15 more hp than the 7mge, so not much hp gains there. The 1uzfe is 260hp and weighs like 175 pounds less so a decent improvement in many ways. Just lots more money. Far less to convert the 2jzge or keep the 7mge.

I’m amazed there’s that much in import duties. Last I checked Tiger only wanted like $500.00 for a 7mge. Crazy that it’ll cost $1000.00 to get it in your hands. Maybe call them again. There’s 2 dudes that run that place and one of them is dumb as a brick maybe you got him? See if they’ll give you another quote. Are there any Cresidas you can find local? Maybe look for those so you can get another 7mge that way?

 

[Icy Supra]

So there will be no real savings in getting the 2jz locally, the savings will eat it self up in no time, I think I will have to call Tiger again and see what they say.
All the Cressidas over here are diesel ones.

 

[sthmstr]

So there will be no real savings in getting the 2jz locally, the savings will eat it self up in no time, I think I will have to call Tiger again and see what they say.
All the Cressidas over here are diesel ones.

Yeah, no real savings. Bummer about the Cresidas too.

For sure give Tiger the call. If they're really gonna charge you that much then you really gotta reevaluate your goals with this car. If they charge you that much just to get the engine you might as well buy a better motor if you gotta fork up the cash. Do it right if you're gonna do it. Then again you may not wanna spend all taht much in that car. Just not all that worth it to you, since you really wanted a MKII and not a MKIII. (Just speculating dude and no offense for the rant.)

In any case lemme know what else you thinkin. :icon_bigg

 

[7Mboost]

What are your plans for the car? before I recommend an engine selection.

 

[Guyana00]

What I think is that if you look around someone from the community will hear your case and help you out. Find someone who is doing or did a 7MGTE swap and they will more than likely sell you the perfectly good engine and ship it the cheapest way they can find. It will probably be around the same thing to ship Tiger charges, I doubt they have any special deals. A USDM is more likely to have it's history actually known by the seller when compared to unknown mileage, unknown condition JDM engine.

The people on here are good and those swaps happen everyday, I'm sure someone will step up and help you out. The GE's aren't worth a great deal and someone may be able to give you a break and maybe sell it for 2-300 bucks. You instantly save a few hundred from Tiger and shipping will probably be about the same.

Anyone reading this willing to help him out? What does that extra hundred or two mean to you selling your GE if you could get that price, compared to helping someone out in Iceland, without many options.

I wish I could say I'm the one but I'm still GE and not going to be doing the swap for a while.

If there was anything else you needed I'm sure they could sneak it in at whatever price it is, with the engine and you might not have to pay duties for it, just the engine.

Good luck, I'll follow along and see what happens.

Thinking it over, I've realized it may be easier to
a) source an engine from the UK, not sure on that though.
b) look around locally! I know as you said it may be a longshot, but is it worth a few hundred to you to make a few calls and see if there are any available within at least the country? Take a look, you never know what people have. Post want ads online, call engine shops, import shops if you have them there.

And lastly, diesel Cressidas? That's just awesome, turbo a diesel cressida!

 

[7MGTEsup]

Try looking on www.forum.mkiiisupra.net from time to time people give away engines because they are doing a swap or they have had enough of tripping over it in there garage. Then all you would have to do is pay shipping. You can post a wanted add, there is a pre 89 car for sale at the moment for £170 (no that isn't a misprint) with a BHG.

 

[Icy Supra]

Yeah, no real savings. Bummer about the Cresidas too.

For sure give Tiger the call. If they're really gonna charge you that much then you really gotta reevaluate your goals with this car. If they charge you that much just to get the engine you might as well buy a better motor if you gotta fork up the cash. Do it right if you're gonna do it. Then again you may not wanna spend all taht much in that car. Just not all that worth it to you, since you really wanted a MKII and not a MKIII. (Just speculating dude and no offense for the rant.)

In any case lemme know what else you thinkin. :icon_bigg

Don´t get me wrong I love my MKIII, the MKII has more nostalgic value for me, I used to have one when I was a teenager, back then I drooled over the MKIII

What are your plans for the car? before I recommend an engine selection.

My plan is to get the car running by April 2012
I´m a member of the Antique Automobile Club of Iceland, and by 2012 the car will be old enough so I do not have to pay any thing to have it on the road. I´t will be a "Sunday" car, going to shows and maybe taking part in the club´s annual quarter mile drag race, other than that sitting in my garage, going for a drive on sunny days.

What I think is that if you look around someone from the community will hear your case and help you out. Find someone who is doing or did a 7MGTE swap and they will more than likely sell you the perfectly good engine and ship it the cheapest way they can find. It will probably be around the same thing to ship Tiger charges, I doubt they have any special deals. A USDM is more likely to have it's history actually known by the seller when compared to unknown mileage, unknown condition JDM engine.

The people on here are good and those swaps happen everyday, I'm sure someone will step up and help you out. The GE's aren't worth a great deal and someone may be able to give you a break and maybe sell it for 2-300 bucks. You instantly save a few hundred from Tiger and shipping will probably be about the same.

Anyone reading this willing to help him out? What does that extra hundred or two mean to you selling your GE if you could get that price, compared to helping someone out in Iceland, without many options.

I wish I could say I'm the one but I'm still GE and not going to be doing the swap for a while.

If there was anything else you needed I'm sure they could sneak it in at whatever price it is, with the engine and you might not have to pay duties for it, just the engine.

Good luck, I'll follow along and see what happens.

Thinking it over, I've realized it may be easier to
a) source an engine from the UK, not sure on that though.
b) look around locally! I know as you said it may be a longshot, but is it worth a few hundred to you to make a few calls and see if there are any available within at least the country? Take a look, you never know what people have. Post want ads online, call engine shops, import shops if you have them there.

And lastly, diesel Cressidas? That's just awesome, turbo a diesel cressida!

Jupp, turbo diesel Cressidas.

I will keep looking for a 7m, both here on SM and in the U.K.
As for locally, the Supra "community" in Iceland is very, very small, it´s like 2 MKII, 3 MKIII and 2 MKIV, I have talked to the other MKIII owners and they still use their 7M´s.

Try looking on www.forum.mkiiisupra.net from time to time people give away engines because they are doing a swap or they have had enough of tripping over it in there garage. Then all you would have to do is pay shipping. You can post a wanted add, there is a pre 89 car for sale at the moment for £170 (no that isn't a misprint) with a BHG.

Thank´s for the link I will cheek that out, I do have a friend in the U.K, he is bringing me my body parts this summer. I could have stuff sent to him so he can send it to me.

 

[Icy Supra]

I am still trying to find something usable hear in Iceland, if I do import a hole engine I will have to pay a lot in taxis of it and also the currency we use is not so good vs. the dollar right now, so the less I need import the better, so I ask:
Is there any other Toyota or Lexus engine that has the same block as the 7m-ge, cos if so, then I can import just a head and prob save a bit.