bigaaron said:I meant from 9/11 on.
Read the translated documents for yourself & you'll see that Saddam himself said likewise. Pretty hard to say he didn't after he said he did.
bigaaron said:I meant from 9/11 on.
NDBoost said:thread failure in 3..2....1...
in all honesty although i may not agree 100% with the reasons why we are there. I do however support the troops they are there, lets finish the fight and get em home and put this shit in the past![]()
No that isnt what you said.I meant from 9/11 on.
Nice one bill clinton. You said none, and never were. You didnt know I was going to bitch slap that statement with fact. I will not let you get away with double talk like that.There are no wmd's in Iraq and there never were.
I also want our troops to succeed
I just think it is time they came home
And the truth finally comes out.to fight a bs war like the one we are in
Nick M said:Grimjack, I am not saying you are trying to rewrite history. I am saying those that write history (teachers and publishers) are trying to rewrite it. And hide it by saying it is written by the winners. My mistake, I know you arent trying to rewrite anything.
No that isnt what you said.
Nice one bill clinton. You said none, and never were. You didnt know I was going to bitch slap that statement with fact. I will not let you get away with double talk like that.
And the truth finally comes out.
jetjock said:Do you believe everything you read? Your first link has to be the truth right? After all, it's a *military* report.
Since you believe everything you read and I don't (and since we're talking about higher ups in Iraq) try Iraq's foreign minister:
http://tinyurl.com/nrdqb
Oops. Lol, did you ever consider your neck might be red because you have your head up your ass?
rakkasan said:I have to ask, what services did you serve in & what did you do? I personally have spent many years in the cannon fodder filled Infantry ending as a Squad leader & then served three more years as a Fire Support Section Chief in the National Guard. Just curious of your experience.
lanky189 said:if the war was about oil...i wouldn't be paying 2.49 a damn gallon, when before the war i was dropping 1.50.. think about it!
Cry me a freakin river, jetjock. If you're scorned that you lost a few years because you were forced to do something you didn't want to do during your partying years, seek professional help.jetjock said:I served in the Air Force and later the Army Guard. There was a draft at the time but I enlisted even though my number and educational status excluded me. I was in law enforcement in both services. I'm also a veteran of another misguided conflict having served in Southeast Asia at the very end. Anyone who has seen the effects of war first hand forever learns it must be employed as a last resort and only for "legitimate" reasons. As I said, it's not my generation who'll have to pay for this mess.
LOL, I guess you're not attacking *me*, but you are attacking the millions that have had the honor of being Infantrymen, Red Legs, Calvery & the likes.jetjock said:So you served as an active duty grunt. Why? I'm not attacking you, just curious. Are you one of the "mutt people" mentioned? Is it because like so many recruits you were easily manipulated and brainwashed by military propaganda? Or that like many who enlist as grunts you lacked the tools necessary to make better choices at that time in your life?
Put on a tin foil hat & seek professional therapy.....jetjock said:How else can you explain why someone would enlist knowing what educated people understand about how the military operates? Who with a sound mind would completely turn over their health to them? Who would sign up today knowing that 400,000 soldiers from the first Gulf War have gone on disability from DU poisoning or some other pathogen they contracted in that war? Who would sign up for the military knowing how soldiers were treated during Vietnam? Who would sign up knowing soldiers from WWII were unknowingly subjected to biological testing? Or forced to take part in nuclear weapons tests?
see abovejetjock said:Who would sign up knowing that the Feres Doctrine forces them to give up their rights to compensation for damages the military might willfully inflict upon them? Who would sign up knowing that our government is being run on behalf of large corporations to serve their needs? It's appalling the same right wing loons who argue that we need smaller government because government is bad don't have any problem with trusting government when it comes to what the military does.
"arrogant, ignorant, cloistered sorts who possess neither care nor knowledge of what goes on outside their own little world."jetjock said:The point is the lower levels of the military are populated by those who aren't exactly the sharpest tacks in the box. That said, I still have respect for the those who serve at the bottom but I come from a time when we learned the hard way the goverment is full of shit and that includes everyone at the Pentagon. Nothing has changed. Guys like you are too young to have learned this but your time will come.
jetjock said:All that aside, what your boy W has done is wrong in so many ways I don't even know where to begin. His rating is in the toilet now only because most of your kind has finally wised up to what a terrible mistake they've made. But not you, you're still a hold out. What does that imply about your critical thinking skills? What's really sad is all this could've been avoided if those who elected this clown had bothered to focus on something other than their own lives, at least when it mattered.