Turbo afm on an N/A??

tubbie

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harness
cps
ignitor
ecu (+hac sensor if pre 89)
coil packs
one knock sensor
injectors
afm

Thats all you will need. Now tune away at a Turbo NA....
 

SupraDerk

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You'd basically be doing an NA-T swap minus the turbo, turbo manifold, downpipe, intercooler, intercooler pipes and some plumbing stuff. Might as well just go NA-T if you're gonna go through all that trouble.


edit: tubbie I could stare at your sig all day :naughty: :love:
 

bluedragon17

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Sep 14, 2006
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yeah i was readin into it more last night and everything like that basically. shit. Ill have to stick with this weak afm until this motor blows then im just gonna do a GTE swap
 

CRE

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Oct 24, 2005
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Couldn't you use a GTE AFM on GE electronics with a maft pro? Not worth the money if that's all you're looking to do, but that'd probably be the easiest route.
 

bluedragon17

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isnt the purpose of an maft-pro supposed to be so that you can remove them afm alltogether and that will run your car once its tuned??? and i think it will be easier to just do a GTE swap anyways thats what im leaning towards right now
 

CRE

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bluedragon17 said:
isnt the purpose of an maft-pro supposed to be so that you can remove them afm alltogether and that will run your car once its tuned??? and i think it will be easier to just do a GTE swap anyways thats what im leaning towards right now

You're always going to need some way of measuring the amount of air going into the engine at a given point in time... whether that be via MAF or MAP is the question. The MAFT Pro (Mass Air Fuel Translator Pro) give you the ability of using a system of your choosing with your existing ECU.

I think I see what you're getting at... if you install a maft pro why keep any type of MKIII AFM? I can't think of a good reason... it'd just probably be a hell of a lot easier to install the 12 or so wires and hit a couple buttons than swapping over all the GTE's harnesses and electronics.
 

bluedragon17

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ahhhhhhhh ok i get it but then going with the maft pro you could use something off any car so why not get one that flows a hell of alot more air stock than anything else??? like a truck or something like that. as long as you have the supporting mods to use that sensor
 

CRE

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bluedragon17 said:
ahhhhhhhh ok i get it but then going with the maft pro you could use something off any car so why not get one that flows a hell of alot more air stock than anything else??? like a truck or something like that. as long as you have the supporting mods to use that sensor

Bingo! So install a Maft Pro and a massive LS-1 MAF sensor and be done with it.

Not to mention the added bonus of fuel and timing control.
 

bluedragon17

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yeah true true thats whats cool and appealing wanna buy me one and ill let you know how it works then?? thats why i was wondering if the GTE with electronics woould work thats simple and i can do it tuning with the maft pro i would get past the first page im good with cars but not THAT good
 

CRE

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How about I let you know how it goes? :evil2: I've got my maft pro and I'm trying to figure out what all is entailed in the configuration to get up and running on a LS-1 MAF.

I picked up my maft pro a while back while I had the cash... planning ahead for adding a turbo. My AFM took a crap on me a few days ago... so I'm looking to upgrade versus just replacing it. From what I hear MAP may not be predictable enough for a DD, so I'm looking at other MAF sensors.




EDIT: Oh and from the sound of it, just switching from our AFM to another MAF sensor doesn't take any "tuning" just the right initial configuration.... I may be wrong, but that's how I understood it.
 

bluedragon17

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ooo yeah that would be sick once i get the cash(supra owner as you know) i might pick one up if not then im going to already get the GTE front clip and go from there and yeah keep me posted about how the tune and everything like that goes while were on the subject ive got a rebuilt ct-26 for sale very minimal shaft play 175+shipping interested???
 

CRE

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That would seriously depend on how minimal the shaft play is.... I've already got one waiting for a rebuild and a balance of the new impeller. PM me with the details.

Back OT, have you already got a GTE clip? I don't see how that would be less expensive.
 

bluedragon17

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Sep 14, 2006
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no i dont and its not its actually more but there are less things i have to deal with and less down time im quite fast at motor swaps and all that and i can get one from a place called venus auto with around 40k on it for around 2g's the NA-T swap is around 1300 700 difference with little downtime
 

CRE

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Well, if you're planning on going N/A-T then yeah, pulling from a clip is great... all the hardware to go with the wiring... if you just want to get something other then the stock AFM running a maft pro and LS-1 MAF would run about ~$500 and you won't take a nasty hit on the timing advance of the engine like you will with the GTE ECU.
 

bluedragon17

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cool ill definately keep that in mind and with the GTE id be swapping the whole motor and everything else with it i know its lower compression but that means its a little safer i kinda got a lead foot(mKiii owner yet again) we have a boatload of honduh's out here that think there quick i gotta take em all down when they try and go for it there looks as i wave going past are great and im boostless!!!!! hahahahaha
 

CRE

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bluedragon17 said:
cool ill definately keep that in mind and with the GTE id be swapping the whole motor and everything else with it i know its lower compression but that means its a little safer i kinda got a lead foot(mKiii owner yet again) we have a boatload of honduh's out here that think there quick i gotta take em all down when they try and go for it there looks as i wave going past are great and im boostless!!!!! hahahahaha

A full swap is without a doubt the easiest thing, I was just going with what the thread started with: dumping the N/A AFM for something else.

I know what you mean about the Honduhs... I've got a black hood... no not CF, but that's enough. A black hood on a white car means I MUST want to race. ugh... I really need to get that painted.
 

bluedragon17

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hahahahahahahaha ive got the nice rumble at idle and the 88 turbo wing there like he has a wing must race!!!!!! i wish i had a CF hood less weight more power stupid heavy car sorry baby i didnt mean that (its not gonna be a good day for me now) and yeah full swap easy but i dont like the easy route its no fun thats why im leaning towards 1/2 na-T its more challenging and fun especially when you accomplish it completely