touching light bulbs will ruin them?

KMinAF

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I would appreciate some clarification on the idea that the glass of a light bulb should not be touched due to skin oils having an adverse affect resulting in a premature failure.

It doesn't make sense to me. How would these oils have any affect on the element sealed inside the bulb? I can't remember ever seeing any type of bulb fail due to the "globe" failing.

just wondering
 

toyotanos

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Headlight and foglight bulbs are affected by this the most. They run the hottest and the oils create "hot spots" on the glass which lead to failure. Brake bulbs and other small bulbs run cooler so it doesn't usually show up in them.
 
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toyotanos;1416838 said:
Headlight and foglight bulbs are affected by this the most. They run the hottest and the oils create "hot spots" on the glass which lead to failure. Brake bulbs and other small bulbs run cooler so it doesn't usually show up in them.

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Have you been having problems with this?
 

wade3570

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I work in the film and television field. When it comes to bulbs, its kind of a big deal to be aware of how you handle them. use golves, wipe them clean. basically, you just want them to be oil free and clean before you fire them up. Im just speaking from experience. im not a bulb engineer, but maybe this will help......

...."The thin film of oil left on the glass changes the thermal characteristics of the glass. When the bulb is turned on the glass undergoes pretty significant thermal stress as it heats up. A patch of the glass with an oily finger print on it heats up slower since the oil has to be vaporized or burned off. That creates a large amount of thermal stress in the glass. It doesn't take much stress to shatter the glass or create a hairline crack.

A cracked bulb won't last long since the inert atmosphere that it is supposed to be in the bulb escapes and is replaced by air. A light bulb filament will only last a second or two in air if power is applied.

Usually the admonition to touching the glass of the bulb is for high power lamps like quartz bulbs or the bulbs used in projectors. Those high power lamps generate a lot of heat, and therefore a lot of thermal stress in their envelopes, when they are on. "
 

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wade3570;1417265 said:
I work in the film and television field. When it comes to bulbs, its kind of a big deal to be aware of how you handle them. use golves, wipe them clean. basically, you just want them to be oil free and clean before you fire them up. Im just speaking from experience. im not a bulb engineer, but maybe this will help......

...."The thin film of oil left on the glass changes the thermal characteristics of the glass. When the bulb is turned on the glass undergoes pretty significant thermal stress as it heats up. A patch of the glass with an oily finger print on it heats up slower since the oil has to be vaporized or burned off. That creates a large amount of thermal stress in the glass. It doesn't take much stress to shatter the glass or create a hairline crack.

A cracked bulb won't last long since the inert atmosphere that it is supposed to be in the bulb escapes and is replaced by air. A light bulb filament will only last a second or two in air if power is applied.

Usually the admonition to touching the glass of the bulb is for high power lamps like quartz bulbs or the bulbs used in projectors. Those high power lamps generate a lot of heat, and therefore a lot of thermal stress in their envelopes, when they are on. "

You use gloves to clean the bulbs?? Your kidding? Why don't you use alcohol pads to clean the bulbs??
 

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I think he's saying:
"Use gloves when handling them, and wipe them clean befor you power them up."
 

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toyotanos;1417318 said:
I think he's saying:
"Use gloves when handling them, and wipe them clean befor you power them up."

O.K. I tought he was talking about the T.V. Film bulbs, still I think unless the gloves are brand new, I would think the dirty gloves would be worse than just a plain alcohol pad or just wipe it down with alcohol and a paper towel.

car lights and Movies lights are not the same, movie lights burn at 3200 or 5600 degres. I would say definitly wipe them down. especially H.I.D.S
 

wade3570

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yes, i was referring to using gloves during handling and just making sure the bulbs are clean after install before powering up....you people get the idea. as afar as type of bulbs....really doesnt matter, just use smart practices. again, im not a bulb guy, but the qoute i included should give some insight. either way to whoever about whatever....good luck! lol