timing belt is rubbing timing case

san supra

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first off im very sorry for the pics
this gates belt has maybe 5k on it and has never been a problem but i started to hear a squealing noise last night so i popped the cover off and found it trying to come off the pulleys.
the belt still has perfect tension
any ideas?


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this is where it is hitting
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the tensioner has a lip on the back side but my old metal one didnt
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san supra

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devin: that post did not help me


for the tensioner i use the plastic end of a small screw driver (between the pulley and rear timing case) and pushed it over until the sides A and B (tsrm) on the belt felt the same.
while i pushed over on it i had the nut just barely cracked loose so the pulley wouldn't get in a bind or sit crooked (maybe it did).
 
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Devin LeBlanc

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That is already the wrong way to set the tensioner.. Your not supposed to pry at all.. The way I do it it get the engine at TDC cyl no. 1.. Align the cams with the marks on the back of the cover.. Make sure the motor really is at TDC with inserting a long wooden stick of some sort in the number 1 spark plug hole and rotate it until it comes all the way up and then stops. Check that it is in-fact at the 0 position on the crank.. Have a 14 mm wrench ready, the tensioner should be pulled back so it is in the all the way loose position and snugged so it doesn't move. Start with the intake cam first pulling up all slack on it and rotating the cam very slightly until the belt slips over the teeth. Then with the 14mm on the cam bolt slightly rotate the cam counter clockwise to put tension on that side of the belt, now slip the belt over the exhaust side moving the cam gear slightly if you need to so it lines up. With the slack taken up on the intake side of the belt rotate the exhaust side slightly until slack is taken out of the middle of the belt between the two cam gears.. you don't have to do it much only using two fingers is enough, don't rotate anything just snug the belt up.. Now you should have a quite bit of slack on the exhaust side of the belt that goes over the tensioner. Align the belt in the middle of the tensioner and loosen the 14mm bolt on the tensioner. The spring will pull the tensioner tight.. Snug the bolt back up and rotate the crank by HAND with a 19mm socket on the crank pulley two full revolutions, then line it back up at TDC cyl no. 1 and double check that everything is still aligned properly. loosen the bolt on the tensioner once again just to make sure now that everything has seated and then snug it up again.. You do not need to tighten the idler pulley bolt that much at all, just lightly snug is all that is needed, you don't want to warp number 1 cyl bore.

Ps. This post will help you
 

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No more than 36ft/lbs on the bolt as well or you'll trash #1 cylinder as it's pulls out of round :(

I crack the tensioner bolt loose put a 19mm socket on the crank and turn it enough to tighten the belt on the other side from the tensioner (leaving the spring to do it's job) then pull the bolt down to spec, done.
 

Devin LeBlanc

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Yep, Exactly I just explained it the long way lol.. A lot of mechanics will crank on that tensioner bolt until its tight as shit which is completely wrong
 

CajunKenny

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san supra;1649964 said:
CajunKenny was correct, it was the ring was broken.

how do i fix?

Ding...Ding...Ding... What does he win Johnny!? ;)

Good find! Yep, like Grim said, there's no fixing that gear. You just get a new one. :)
 

hvyman

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Ya....

You have to use something you get the tensioner around the belt or else the spring on it is shit. So he was correct on prying on it to get the belt on. the belt also needs equal tension on both sides after 2 revolutions like the op said he did. That bolt needed to be torqued to 36 and no more like IJ said and the book says. Nothing wrong with what he said just his crack pulley went to shit like some of them do. Usually its the rear tho.
 

san supra

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yeah i did what they said and fixed the tensioner but of couse it still fucked up 20miles later.

how much is a new one?

kenny: you get a hardy hand shake and a gold star. lol thanks!




is it ok to get one off another motor?
 

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As I posted, new one is under $50. Well, if you buy from the right Toyota dealership, anyway. Used one should be fine as well... as a rule they don't wear much, the only thing touching 'em is a belt, which is distinctly softer than the gear. :)
 

san supra

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getting a new one is tempting but my current income would dictate that is not an option.

devin:thanks for the offer but i have one locally that i can get my hands on.

GRIM: i was drinking and missed your post. lol thanks for the price quote

i appreciate everyone's good info, thanks!