The Suspension Setups Info Thread

[ValgeKotkas]

1987 year car.
Koni yellows on the softest with Eibach Pro Kit. Sawblades with 225/50 tires.
Pictures without a spare tire (if that changes anything).

^My left rear panel wasn't welded correctly as you can see...

Have nothing to compare the setup to, but they sure are better than stockers I can say that they are comfortable on the streets. Though if there are any obstacles on the road, then the setup isn't comparable to one of a truck (have noticed, that the stiffness is comparable to the one of a ~91 mr2 (I think he had stock suspension, but who knows), maybe even a bit stiffer). Haven't taken the car to a track yet, but in the city it sits nicely on the road.

 

[HommerSimpson]

Will be doing more mods to rear but for now just wanted to get camber right so wont were inside of tires out...

 

[tsuper92]

i haven't heard of anybody running the spring's on my car.they are espileir super active down w/bilstein shock's.i'm happy with them and will probably keep them till the shock's go bad.my stock tems were so mushy and bounced alot,so to me the car is very stable.the tire's are 275/40-17 R,245/40-17 F.i think the front's would have been better suited with a 245/45,but the guy at the tire shop told me to get these.the car also has a 2jz w/single mated to an r154,not sure how that compare's with a 7m for weight

 

[cuel]

Bilstien's with TIP Engineering's modified sleeves and Hypercoil springs. Not much lower than stock, but handling is incredible. 255/40/zr17 Riken Raptor's on '04 Mustang Bullitt rims.

 

[HommerSimpson]

What about wear on inside of rear tires ? Whos having issues after lowering and not geting enough camber..? anyone do anything like this ?

 

[IJ.]

I just cutNshut 2 pairs of the stock arms so they're 15mm longer and this put the adjusters back in the middle.

 

[shaeff]

Hommer- wouldn't it be best to have a single rod/end assembly per side? I mean, that seems as if it would stress the subframe more than the stock setup, or a single bar that's placed like stock...

 

[tsuper92]

^^^i installed the a-1 toe and camber arm's.my car was toed in with to much camber after lowering

 

[cuel]

Hommer: Is that one bolt through both arms, with a spacer between on each end?

 

[IwantMKIII]

What about wear on inside of rear tires ? Whos having issues after lowering and not geting enough camber..? anyone do anything like this ?

Hommer, ill add this in just as an extra but i need more info on it, who makes them, how well do they work, are you satisfied with them etc etc etc.

 

[woodytsi]

JIC magic A2's
A1 camber, toe, traction, and rear end links
bic front end links
ST sway bars
18 X 8.5 F
18 X 9.5 R MB Drifters
On highest settings - stiff as hell
On lowest setting - just plain stiff

 

[HommerSimpson]

Hommer, ill add this in just as an extra but i need more info on it, who makes them, how well do they work, are you satisfied with them etc etc etc.

Have not driven on yet..
Its my own design
Cost me about 130+

 

[Sawbladz]

HSD HR-Series

- 44mm Piston
- 15-way Adjustable
- Steel Body
- Pillow Ball Mounts
*Street / Track Coilover Application*

My review is that I love them. They ride excellent. Not too harsh even with Poly bushings. The 15 way adjustability has allowed me to make the ride firm and communicative without making the car unbearable on the street. The build quality looks very good and the price was right.

Here are some pics installed. I plan to raise the car up a bit as the front is rubbing slightly.

 

[Wiisass]

Have not driven on yet..
Its my own design
Cost me about 130+


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This looks like a very bad idea. The stresses those arms and mounting will see will probably cause something to break before too long and in a very interesting way. I would not run that and would suggest that you do not drive on that.

 

[87witmoreboost]

+1. You will see some single-shear loads there.

Very creative - Try running a single bar to the middle, still adjustable if you wish.

Double shear FTW.

This looks like a very bad idea. The stresses those arms and mounting will see will probably cause something to break before too long and in a very interesting way. I would not run that and would suggest that you do not drive on that.

 

[HommerSimpson]

sorry just dont get what you are saying...no way in hell will it shear a 5/8 bolt.. and the tube the poly is in... is welded to the inner subframe were its double layerd... the orignal design was bolted to only single layer of steal ...if you dont understand how heim joints work... do some research.. but its very strong. very adjustable...

 

[87witmoreboost]

Honestly, you will most likely be fine.

The concern I have is the upright fully loading one of those bars which puts the joint in single shear where it doesn't spread the load to both support tabs. It could, overtime, elongate and oblong one of the round mounts that the bushing sits in - or possibly shear that bolt.

I don't mean to come across as critical - that design is killer unique and will prob be sold by one of the SM vendors in a year. ha.

sorry just dont get what you are saying...no way in hell will it shear a 5/8 bolt.. and the tube the poly is in... is welded to the inner subframe were its double layerd... the orignal design was bolted to only single layer of steal ...if you dont understand how heim joints work... do some research.. but its very strong. very adjustable...

 

[gaboonviper85]

hommer....wiisass does this for a liveing!!! Dude builds custom suspension for not just street cars but for dedicated race cars....along with roll cages...wiisass can go pure science on you....if he tells you its not a smart idea its probably because its a VERY bad idea! If you notice his name is actually "wise ass"...he really is "wise" but he just comes off as an "ass"....but listen to someone who profeshionally builds suspension for very expensive machines.

He has forgotten more then most here will ever know!

 

[HommerSimpson]

hommer....wiisass does this for a liveing!!! Dude builds custom suspension for not just street cars but for dedicated race cars....along with roll cages...wiisass can go pure science on you....if he tells you its not a smart idea its probably because its a VERY bad idea! If you notice his name is actually "wise ass"...he really is "wise" but he just comes off as an "ass"....but listen to someone who profeshionally builds suspension for very expensive machines.

He has forgotten more then most here will ever know!

I was rebuilding lawn mowers when i was 10
I was 14 when I started pushing a broom for 1.50 hr.. 2 weeks after i started I was working on his late model...
My boss has run New smyrna speed way for past 15 years...Ive built several custom cars in my time and worked on quite afew...
Because i think way out of the box by no means .. means im an idiot...My IQ happens to be in the high 140's but im uneducated as far as school goes as i droped out to turn a wrench because i was making more money at age 15 then the teachers were...I do what other say cant be done... :} just pay attintion you just might learn a few things from me..

And soon as shes ready to take to a track and im sure theres one in central fl someplace... i will find out if i did good or bad.. as im not one to baby ANYTHING.. i grew up in the hills of clearmont florida on the dirt roads... Ive spent more miles going sideways then going strait when i wad young :}

not being a hardass eather... im just not use to people thinkin i have no clue.. most that know me personaly call me McGyvier.. :]

 

[themadhatter]

Tanabe GF-210 Springs and KYB GR-2 shocks​

1987 Turbo, Targa 5-Speed
- Wheels/ tires: 16x7 mustang wheels with 225/50/16

Links to pictures
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/6584/drop1ly6.jpg
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2990/dropped2dt4.jpg


The springs provide a nice drop and a very nice increase in the handling of the car. The springs are advertised at 1.3 front and .7 rear but it lowered my car a little more then that as far as ride quality goes I can describe it a little stiff but very liveable.