The quest for flush fitment

aloshan

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Hey Guys

So many of you already know the plethora of problems Ive faced with my MK3, and in the midst of screams by those around me to "let it go and get a car that isn't 25 years old and prone to problems" I'm still in the pursuit to make my supra as fast,good looking and comfortable as possible even in the face of what seems like insurmountable obstacles.

Each week I plan to save for coil overs but each week I find that I need something that is broken in my supe ,that is much more crucial then ride height. Be it an o2 sensor, a fuel sender unit or solenoids for my transmission. This pushes the date in which i can get coil overs further and further and looking at it now - i don't think I'll be able to drop 1k into my car for some time.

The space between my guards and my current wheels seems to be about 2inches(note that I already have king springs...which kind im not sure), so I thought to myself - the cheapest(but average quality)coil overs I can get come to about $850 with postage. All I really want is decent ride quality and for my wheels to be flush with the guards. I don't and never will track my car. $800 for 2 inches of drop seems a bit much.

Ive looked at the spring/shock combo avenue before but haven't done in depth research on them.

It seems the way I am going, I'll never be able to get the coil overs , yet I cant stand looking at my MK3 everyday sitting at 4x4 height.

My questions are, from stock height

- on average how many inches drop would I need to sit flush
using andy's auto sport wheel sim it seems like i would need 3 -3.5 inches drop from stock to sit flush with the wheels I have


- are there any spring/shock combo's that would do this for me(would love if I can find a combo with the tokico illuminas as I would like to retain my TEMS)?


- beside replacing bushings/springs & shocks , what else would I need for my car not to feel like a boat and bounce all over the place even when I go over the slightest bump?


Thanks in advance for any help
 
suprastupid

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Keep an eye on ebay and the forums... I gkt my tein ss slightly used for under 600 shipped..deals are out there... just gotta keep an eye out and be patient...

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te72

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Honestly, for stance, I have yet to see a drop in solution that does better than the Eibach Pro kit for our cars. They're cheap (~$200-300 last I checked), get some new Tokicos, and call it a day. You'll have about 1/4" gap up front, and maybe 1/2" in back. Throw a good set of sway bars on it, plus these springs, and you'll be lucky to have ANY body roll. Be aware though, that this will result in a quite stiff ride. Not unbearable for most, but it sure won't ride like the Cadillac feeling stock setup...
 
aloshan

aloshan

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te72;1782322 said:
Honestly, for stance, I have yet to see a drop in solution that does better than the Eibach Pro kit for our cars. They're cheap (~$200-300 last I checked), get some new Tokicos, and call it a day. You'll have about 1/4" gap up front, and maybe 1/2" in back. Throw a good set of sway bars on it, plus these springs, and you'll be lucky to have ANY body roll. Be aware though, that this will result in a quite stiff ride. Not unbearable for most, but it sure won't ride like the Cadillac feeling stock setup...
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hmm would you happen to have a photo with the eibachs?
 
supraguy@aol

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Eibach's, Tockico blue's, Suspension Techniques swaybars.
Mind you- This is only about 15 minutes after I put the new wheels one, and the car had been up for awhile, so the car prolly sits about 2-3mm lower than this.

If you want lower, get Intrax.
They ride for shit, but you'll be slammed.
Got rid of mine for the Eibach's.
 
destrux

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The lowest springs for the MKIII are Dropzone. They were a 3" drop on the front of my car. I got them cause I took so much weight out of the car that it was 1.5" above stock ride height with the stock springs, these brought mine to 2" drop on the front and 1.25" out back. I custom made spacers for the front to raise it up 1/2" more (I had to take these out since then, I lost another 55 pounds off the front end).

If you're looking for slammed though.... they will do it. On a stock weight car they'd probably be 3" all around. You will be on the bumpstops ALL THE TIME though and this will make the car handle and ride like shit. This is really where coilovers shine. Coilovers shorten the shock body with the drop, so you stay out of the bumpstop. You just bottom on other stuff first, like fender liners and wheel wells, so check your clearances! The car will still handle like crap, but at least it won't ride as horrible as it would on the bumpstops.

I'm starting to get off into a hellafunctional rant again so I'll just stop right here.
 
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Caliz_lil_7up

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+1 i saw these as well and had wondered if anyone has run these before.They look like something that the honda guys use but if it works it works.
 
aloshan

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Caliz_lil_7up;1782499 said:
+1 i saw these as well and had wondered if anyone has run these before.They look like something that the honda guys use but if it works it works.
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good chance that itl be dangerous and provide shitty handling while damaging crucial suspension components but its nice to know what the supe community thinks of them....
 
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te72

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aloshan;1782427 said:
hmm would you happen to have a photo with the eibachs?
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I would post, but I don't have any good pics of my 88 during daylight, and really don't have any side-profile pictures of the car. Supraguy's photo is probably more accurate than mine however, given my car was on stock wheels.

destrux;1782450 said:
If you're looking for slammed though.... they will do it. On a stock weight car they'd probably be 3" all around. You will be on the bumpstops ALL THE TIME though and this will make the car handle and ride like shit. This is really where coilovers shine. Coilovers shorten the shock body with the drop, so you stay out of the bumpstop. You just bottom on other stuff first, like fender liners and wheel wells, so check your clearances! The car will still handle like crap, but at least it won't ride as horrible as it would on the bumpstops.

I'm starting to get off into a hellafunctional rant again so I'll just stop right here.
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Hahaha, good to see someone considers function before form. He's right though, coilovers are my preferred method when there is the option. :)

aloshan;1782506 said:
good chance that itl be dangerous and provide shitty handling while damaging crucial suspension components but its nice to know what the supe community thinks of them....
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Personally I tend to stick to what is decently known, and leave experimenting to people who have more time on their hands than I do. :)

xzeror;1782641 said:
If your not going to get decent coils, just get decent springs. Dont bother with that cheap shit on ebay..
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Exactly. Again, why do twice what you can do correctly once? Sure it costs a bit more, but the potential to spend money twice because the cheap option didn't work out as well as planned... I'll pass on that.
 
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