swaybars:st or tanabe?

marc3

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i installed the front&rear suspension technique bars on my mk3 last year, and find that they handle quite well!
however ,i've noticed that the tanabe front bar is slightly thicker, and from what i've heard ...LIGHTER as well! since i've been a little uptight about the front weight, imight wonna change for the tanabe piece!!
anyone can confirm this? or if someone has tried both, i'd like to get some insight.
 
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pb92supraturbo

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I can't confirm if the Tanabe's are lighter than ST's, but they are definitely lighter than the stock swaybars. I have pictures weighing both the stock and Tanabe bars on my home PC. I can post these pictures later if you want to see. I installed the Tanabe's along with BIC endlinks and am very pleased with the performance. The bonus is less weight - even if it is only a few pounds, every little bit can only help.


marc3 said:
i installed the front&rear suspension technique bars on my mk3 last year, and find that they handle quite well!
however ,i've noticed that the tanabe front bar is slightly thicker, and from what i've heard ...LIGHTER as well! since i've been a little uptight about the front weight, imight wonna change for the tanabe piece!!
anyone can confirm this? or if someone has tried both, i'd like to get some insight.
 

marc3

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pb92supraturbo said:
I can't confirm if the Tanabe's are lighter than ST's, but they are definitely lighter than the stock swaybars. I have pictures weighing both the stock and Tanabe bars on my home PC. I can post these pictures later if you want to see. I installed the Tanabe's along with BIC endlinks and am very pleased with the performance. The bonus is less weight - even if it is only a few pounds, every little bit can only help.
well that answers my question about them being lighter, thank you.
my st are heavier than the stock ,much heavier.

my other question is , do they handle as well??
i know tanabe make high quality products, i would just like to know if someone tried both...and whatwas they're opinion!!
 

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I was going to go w/ whiteline also, but now hearing about their weight, uh uh. I'll prolly go w/ Tanabe also, stick that in your pipe and smoke it. How come every company in the world makes lighter, hollow, stiffer bars for everything else but out car??

Well, now i'll just sit back wait for everyone to tell me how i'm dumb for that and how this is better than that because its more "heavy duty" cuz it weighs 1000lbs and blah blah blah.
 

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Jiish... how much more can those things weight? Go work out a little, that'd be easier weight reduction. Or am I too ignorant? :D
 

Grimsta

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I would prefer to keep taking weight off then keep adding? That seems to be a big mentality here. Bigger is beefier and bigger and heavier is better, but thats not always true. There are many lightweight parts that are stronger than heavier parts, take magnesium for example. Hella expensive, but in the end... am i right. Its like computers, they've gotten smaller instead of bigger. Wouldn't you think a bigger computer would be faster? No, the smaller ones are. Its what happens when technology progresses
 

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Most lightweight parts are really built for race cars and don't stand up to daily driving as while they're often quite strong they don't have much of a service life when used in a DD on the road.
 

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I guess, since I build my car for race, thats how I look at it. Good point. But at the same time I would think if it was built for a race car it would handle DD with no problems since DD dont see the abuse and stress created on the track, no?
 

IJ.

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No potholes or things to hit on a track ;)

It comes down to fatigue life, a lot of race type parts get regular inspection and replacement (at least in any team I've worked for) and while old age in a race part may be 5000km's I can do that in 3 weekends here.
 

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IJ. said:
No potholes or things to hit on a track ;)

It comes down to fatigue life, a lot of race type parts get regular inspection and replacement (at least in any team I've worked for) and while old age in a race part may be 5000km's I can do that in 3 weekends here.

Depends on the fatigue cycle of the material.

Aluminum is VERY strong and VERY light - but it WILL eventually fail, when load is placed on it.

Racing teams swap stuff out all the time, so no big deal. For a DD, though, you want something without a fatigue cycle like that.

Hollow Chromoly bars would be the ticket, imho.
 

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tekdeus said:
Since the whiteline bars are the stiffest, what is the theoretical compromise when a sway bar is too stiff? Does the ride get jarring over uneven roads?

Tek: It might Tricycle if it's too stiff but I can't see that happening with a fat pig Mk3 and even less so with your WB Car ;) (it would take 12" diameter bars)