Suspension Techniques:: The Good - Bad - Ugly?

[twinturbozs]

The difference you felt when you added the ST sway bars in, is about the difference you will feel when you remove the ST bars and put in a Whiteline one. The stiffness is noticeble, and feels much more stable.

 

[Poodles]

whiteline won't publish their spring rates for their swaybars, but they are the the business to win...

swaybar settings are determined by the setup of your suspension in general. Suspensions need to be looked at as a package and not as each parts as they all have to function in unison.

All supras are not the same, not everyone is stock suspension, ect...

I'm VERY happy with my whitelines, even on the lowest setting as it's made the car VERY predictable in the corners (no nasty understeer or snap oversteer). Best mod yet...

 

[suprabad]

I'm surprised nobody has touched on the fact that double wishbone suspension works better with a certain amount of body roll.

I'm not negating the value of anti-sway bars, however, eliminate too much of the body roll (with double wishbone) and you'll have a car that doesn't handle nearly as well as it would with the proper amount of of body roll.

Hate to tell some of our drift friends, but drifting aint the fastest way around the track. :3d_frown:

Too much fast and furious, too little fact.

 

[cjsupra90]

I'm surprised nobody has touched on the fact that double wishbone suspension works better with a certain amount of body roll.

I'm not negating the value of anti-sway bars, however, eliminate too much of the body roll (with double wishbone) and you'll have a car that doesn't handle nearly as well as it would with the proper amount of of body roll.

Hate to tell some of our drift friends, but drifting aint the fastest way around the track. :3d_frown:

Too much fast and furious, too little fact.

Not exactly true. Double wishbone type suspensions typically have more camber gain as the suspension is compressed and this allows the tire to remain flat on the ground as the body rolls and the suspension compresses. If the suspension system matains proper geometry through out its entire range of motion, then adding or eliminating body roll will not effect anything.... No matter how much or little roll we have, we are still stuck with the same geometry and the same amount of camber gain per degree or roll.

One thing to note here is that a swaybar (anti-roll bar) is not truelly designed specifically to eliminate body roll so to speek, it is designed to apply more vertical load to the outside tire why the car is in a turning situation. The more vertical load applied to a tire, the more traction is will generate.