supra vs ls1 camaro

NeatOman

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1. Be able to use the power before a shift (turbo lag)

2. less shifting

3. less wheel spin

400hp is a lot to have @ below 40mph (~37). I'm not saying to have something like a 60mph 1st like a Z06.. that engine makes crazy power @ 2K. But I'm sure it does not make 400hp @ 35mph.. see what I'm getting at? Manage the power better. Make go faster!
 

MassSupra89

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We're talking about a competition for acceleration here, not top speed. Longer gears for our car would also mean 1. More initial lag 2. below powerband upon shift into the next gear. You'd have to overrev a gear just to be close to peak output for the next gear.

I think stock R154 and 3.73's is ideal, and would not go any lower than that. Especially not for acceleration.

Unless this is a 60-180 roll race, stay with stock turbo gears.
 

casgallo

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4.3 rear end? let us know who wins so we have another car to compare to. haha

strip interior, remove bumper supports, take off the rear brakes, make it lighter yeahh!!
 

arz

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s7mgte said:
i know how it all works..i just was wondering what i needed plus i got an 02 R1 that will smoke anyone who wants it... im getting injectors and sutff soon.. and its not a regualar rebuilt ct26.,.. its a t04 60-1 and rated for 600rwhp and 35 psi.. but i dont plan on running more than 18psi max on stock internals..

I will race you with my 7M Z car. :biglaugh:

I have a full T4 60-1 and they are only good for just over 500 RWHP pulling out every trick you can think. 600 RWHP is very very optimistic for a T4 60-1 and a total dream on a CT/60-1.


At 18 PSI you should have just about 400 RWHP with a real T4 60-1 and all other supporting hardware.


Also a Lex afm and 440's do just fine, my WB shows the factory TCCS has plenty of head room to pull the fuel back to match the extra air. I have been up to 22 PSI and the WB looked OK enough to stay into it. I really couldnt go much higher safely.

Loosing weight is the KEY!!!
 

foreverpsycotic

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start throwing up to lose 10 lbs, gut the interior, run with an 1/8 tank of race gas, no spare. oh and get some 550s and turn the boost up to ~23-25#. its all about 3 things, traction, power and weight. from a 40 roll, traction isnt too much of an issue. now work on the power and weight.
 

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tte said:
So has anyone here ever beaten a 300rwhp Camaro?

Looks like most of the guys are saying it cant be done...

Cheers,
Roy

Your probably not talking to me, but I leave them and Vipers and pretty much anything thats not a Motorcycle, like they are putting on the brakes.
 

bountykilla0118

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arz said:
Your probably not talking to me, but I leave them and Vipers and pretty much anything thats not a Motorcycle, like they are putting on the brakes.
::hah:: HAHAHAHA ....... Couldn't tell from that video





J/K
 

Doward

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From a 40mph roll, I hung about 1.5 cars back from my buddy with the '01 12 second Camaro SS.

My mods:
3" elbow (non-DDP)
3" full exhaust (no cat)
16psi (brand new 57trim CT26)
2 cylinders with bad rings :D
2.5" hard pipes, bigger spearco replica IC
stock 440cc injectors
walbro 255
MAFT-Pro and a bunch of tuning!

That was 40-~125mph roll - he pulled immediately, and then held there.
 

bountykilla0118

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Ummm yea i belive the an upgraded ct26 would take it ..... If Doward had a stronger motor he would should have taken his friend 12second 01 Camero
 

Doward

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coulda woulda shoulda - I try to avoid bench racing. I ran what I had, and it turned out to not be enough. :)

Hence why I'm bringing more on this next round :evil2:

Had I been running a fresh 7M, I think it would have been very close.
 

silvergsx623

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tte said:
So has anyone here ever beaten a 300rwhp Camaro?

Looks like most of the guys are saying it cant be done...


Cheers,
Roy

I beat a 300+hp camaro :icon_razz with my SS :biglaugh: does that count?
 

89Turbo

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i ran even with one with 340rwhp with intake, exhaust, 9psi, i was auto and he was 6spd, from 10mph to 90..................just for comparison

that was very unclear

Me-auto, intake, exhaust, 9psi
Him- 340rwhp 99 LS1, 6spd.....
 

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tte said:
So has anyone here ever beaten a 300rwhp Camaro?

Looks like most of the guys are saying it cant be done...


Cheers,
Roy

Yes, I have.

Yes, it can be done. But a 300 rwhp Supra will lose to a 300 rwhp LS1 Camaro. Same with the 400 rwhp range. You need to out power it with our smaller "area under the curve".
 

NeatOman

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Yeah... SS Camaros are nice, 1st is extended to almost 50mph and the engine Just loves it! And even more when more power is added!
 

Junior

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Nick M said:
Yes, I have.

Yes, it can be done. But a 300 rwhp Supra will lose to a 300 rwhp LS1 Camaro. Same with the 400 rwhp range. You need to out power it with our smaller "area under the curve".


exactly.

a 300hp NA/SC motor will demolish a 300hp turbo motor, every time, without fail.