supra vs ls1 camaro
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MassSupra89 said:
probably want to atleast throw in a AFPR, SAFC and a good tune.. oh and a boost controller..
Yup, a stock SS will walk all over you in a straight line. If this guys really making 400hp at the wheels you've got some work in store for you.
The power curve of the LS1 really doesn't have a downside. It's got lots of low end torque, and still pulls hard up top.
The power curve of the LS1 really doesn't have a downside. It's got lots of low end torque, and still pulls hard up top.
MassSupra89 said:
i have the motor and tranny out of the car. im putting in a metal head gasket. i have an upgrade ct26 60-1 and a fmic. also i have 264 brian crower upgrade cams ,lex afm, mbc, lightened flywheel and 6 puck clutch. also 3 in turbo back exhaust and intake. what do you think?
That's a good start. You're gonna need fuel though. 550cc's, a walbro 255 pump, and AFPR will support you to 500hp as far as fuel is concerned. and an SAFC for tuning the LexAFM and 550's will be a wise choice.
Once you have all the hardware remember a good tune is the most important thing. You could have the component's for 600hp but a bad tune will make your car fall on it's face... or worse destroy something before you even get a taste of the power.
Once you have all the hardware remember a good tune is the most important thing. You could have the component's for 600hp but a bad tune will make your car fall on it's face... or worse destroy something before you even get a taste of the power.
Fuel cut typically comes in around 12-13 psi.
But you'll probably only see about 10psi in lower gears.
But you'll probably only see about 10psi in lower gears.
depends how good a driver the guy is. is it an auto or a 6spd? my brother has beaten a local guy with intake, exhaust, hybrid turbo, lower ic pipe, and a tuned ecu (superchips, i shit you not! daughterboard and all) that makes a similiar claim that this guy does. you can have all the whp in the world and if you cant lay down the power or miss shifts it doesnt matter
You're gonna run the LexAFM without the 550's? and no way to tune?
The Lex will allow around 25% more air past than the stock afm, and 550's will deliver around 25% more fuel. that's why they can make good power, Together. You can run the LexAFM with stock injectors but you're gonna need a way to moniter your a/f's (a Wideband, Which you should do as soon as you start messing with fuel and air) And a way to tune for the AFM.
But you will not see the gains of the AFM without the fuel to accomodate it.
Also an upgraded CT good for 35 psi?? Sorry, you're gonna be blowing hot air way before that. I wouldn't run more than 20psi on any CT-26, especially not with pump gas.
The Lex will allow around 25% more air past than the stock afm, and 550's will deliver around 25% more fuel. that's why they can make good power, Together. You can run the LexAFM with stock injectors but you're gonna need a way to moniter your a/f's (a Wideband, Which you should do as soon as you start messing with fuel and air) And a way to tune for the AFM.
But you will not see the gains of the AFM without the fuel to accomodate it.
Also an upgraded CT good for 35 psi?? Sorry, you're gonna be blowing hot air way before that. I wouldn't run more than 20psi on any CT-26, especially not with pump gas.
highway pull or a dig. i was riding in a supra and we raced a c5 (not z06) from 60-120 and only lost by 2.5 cars. the only mod was a downpipe, and we had the targa off with an exhaust leak at the manifold.
s7mgte said:
After reading that, its clear you need to start doing some research. You can think it all day, but doesnt mean its gonna happen. A bigger AFM doesnt eliminate fuel cut and definitely not an upgraded turbo. Stop worrying about modding your car to beat some guys camaro...
AHHAHAAHA!!
Bone stock '01 SS (well, a 3400 stall) on street tires, pulls a consistant 1.8x 60', to the tune of a 12.6 in the 1320.
MAFT-Pro, 550s, 57 trim, 3" turbo-back exhaust (DDP), 16-18psi through a nice fat intercooler, with 2.5" hard pipes, a set of drag radials, and a damn good driver should be able to do it!
Oh yeah, don't forget the MHG + ARPs
Bone stock '01 SS (well, a 3400 stall) on street tires, pulls a consistant 1.8x 60', to the tune of a 12.6 in the 1320.
MAFT-Pro, 550s, 57 trim, 3" turbo-back exhaust (DDP), 16-18psi through a nice fat intercooler, with 2.5" hard pipes, a set of drag radials, and a damn good driver should be able to do it!
Oh yeah, don't forget the MHG + ARPs
Doward said:AHHAHAAHA!!
Bone stock '01 SS (well, a 3400 stall) on street tires, pulls a consistant 1.8x 60', to the tune of a 12.6 in the 1320.
MAFT-Pro, 550s, 57 trim, 3" turbo-back exhaust (DDP), 16-18psi through a nice fat intercooler, with 2.5" hard pipes, a set of drag radials, and a damn good driver should be able to do it!
Oh yeah, don't forget the MHG + ARPs
This man speaks the truth. Sounds like you bit off more than you can chew. You have to work your way up to racing modded LS1's.
Learn about your car first. That Camaro is gonna walk all over you and you wont know what hit you. An upgraded CT is not good for anywhere near 35psi. Even if it was, I hope you dont plan on running 35 pounds of boost with your stock pistons.
Your fuel delivery and tune is most important. You dont need massive amounts of boost, 16 pounds is good. You need 550cc injectors, A Lexus AFM [or HKS VPC], a SAFC to tune [VPC is only good upto 2000RPM], and a Walbro 255lph Fuel pump. They all work hand in hand.
Don't be afraid to lose. Anyone can throw money at a Supra and buy top brand parts. If you dont know how they work; why use them?
Your fuel delivery and tune is most important. You dont need massive amounts of boost, 16 pounds is good. You need 550cc injectors, A Lexus AFM [or HKS VPC], a SAFC to tune [VPC is only good upto 2000RPM], and a Walbro 255lph Fuel pump. They all work hand in hand.
Don't be afraid to lose. Anyone can throw money at a Supra and buy top brand parts. If you dont know how they work; why use them?
Obsessionw/Boost said:
i know how it all works..i just was wondering what i needed plus i got an 02 R1 that will smoke anyone who wants it... im getting injectors and sutff soon.. and its not a regualar rebuilt ct26.,.. its a t04 60-1 and rated for 600rwhp and 35 psi.. but i dont plan on running more than 18psi max on stock internals..
Yeah..learn about your car first. You do want to race half prepared or not prepared.
When you prepped and tuned your car nicely, go kick his ass. But for now
do some research and learn what it takes to make a fast supra...
Delayed Gratification.
Go hard or go home.
Cheers,
Roy
When you prepped and tuned your car nicely, go kick his ass. But for now
do some research and learn what it takes to make a fast supra...
Delayed Gratification.
Go hard or go home.
Cheers,
Roy