Stupid ebay radiators...

[Poodles]

They're all the same stupid Chinese radiator with different names stamped or painted on them...

None of them are drop in, and the only reason the Koyo needs adapting is because it was made for the JZA70 and not an MA70...

 

[92TealSupra]

Maybe they sent you the wrong one, that is off by a lot as you can everyone on here can tell, contact the seller, I always state ( I received a part from you, how do you want to resolve this? ) They get back to me within 2 days.

 

[zambini]

yeah, its an ebay 'kit.'

its not gonna fit w/o some serious finangling.. only thing i can think of is getting some rubber boots cut to a lower profile than the stock ones where the rad sits on the support beam. i know they need to be there for the vibration dampening and insulation from grounding out. plus if you get them custom cut, you can offset the holes so that the mounting tabs up top (which probably arent welded exactly where they need to be) line up with the holes in your upper support. also, you can take care of that extra 13mm by getting some thick rubber bushings and some longer bolts

good luck dude.. if the seller wont take it back, you can still prolly get it to fit. not all hope is lost

 

[NashMan]

my cfs fits great stock fan's as well not cuting or nothing

 

[Pantaloon007]

I cant understand how the f*!#@ you start producing parts without having the proper R&D... making a bolton rad that has all the mounts in the right place isnt that hard and then make a weld jigg so that everything gets positioned right before you start welding shit together.

If an item is advertised to fit, it should. If it dont, you can not say it does.
You can make anything fit, with enough modifications.

Two reasons- it takes more money and time to R&D correctly, and even then every car will be slightly different so someone will bitch about the product not fitting perfectly. Secondly, most people would just give up and put the stocker back in, then sell it to the next sucker on eBay. When you buy in a marketplace like eBay or your local swap meet or with Summit or Jeg's its always the responsibility of the buyer to make sure he's not wasting his money.

Mainly why you should stay local when you get into serious modding. You want to be able to do like the old lady on the Discount Tire commercials when needed.

 

[IJ.]

When I got my PWR way back it wasn't right!

The fitment was lousy and there were missing and misaligned mounts.

I took pics did some drawings and posted it and a stock Mk3 radiator back to PWR and had them correct it all so further production units would be right.

 

[suprafredde]

Well heres some news for you.

So this is how I made it work even though it was advertised to "fit" my car...

1. I had to cut the lower rubbers so that I had 5mm left for the rad to sit on.

2. The upper mounting tabs fits like crap and has to be cut and grinded off. 15-20mm to high, angeled wrong and I cant even see the body bolt holes thru their holes...
So getting new tabs weled on or bending som new steel bracket with rubber insulation is needed here. Dont know why they are there in the first place since the pic of the actual advertised item on ebay dont have them...

3. Fan shroud. I got the mounting point next to the cap to fit the shroud pretty nice. Had to get creative on the other side with a grinder and a custom holding pice of sheet metal.
The lower 2 poits, 1 welded straigh on the lower pipe and the other at a 45 degree angle is totaly useless, Cant use them at all. Dont know yet how to fasten the shroud here...

4. Well now I was making some progress and my ac fans almost lined up with the rads mounting holes, some grinding and the fans was mounted.

So now I test fited it and... well It didnt fit again... the fans hit the ac compressor...So the bracket holding the fans has to be cut 5mm and rewelded.

Once again this rad was supposed to "fit" my car, well Im making it fit with some cutting, welding and fabrication.

Only thing left to go wrong is that the it leaks when I fire up my car next spring...After all my work I bet it does.

suprafredde

 

[ms07s]

If it is a mishimoto rad the drain on it will probably leak after some time. Several of us that did the GB had this issue.

 

[CyFi6]

so test it before you put it in, block off all the inlet/outlets, fill it up and pressure test it.

 

[Pantaloon007]

How much more HP are you achieving that you need this super-rad? Ive seen them on eBay, I know theyre thicker and all, but Im sure the stocker is bigger than it absolutely needs to be. The fact that you are going through all this work for unknown gains in cooling has got to be disheartening

 

[jdub]

my cfs fits great stock fan's as well not cuting or nothing

Same here...My CFS radiator fit perfect and does a great job in the AZ summer heat.

 

[Poodles]

How much more HP are you achieving that you need this super-rad? Ive seen them on eBay, I know theyre thicker and all, but Im sure the stocker is bigger than it absolutely needs to be. The fact that you are going through all this work for unknown gains in cooling has got to be disheartening

Stock cooling system was designed for an N/A car, it's already marginal IMHO and an overheat will pop a headgasket in short order.

I always feel harsh for saying this, but these idiotic chinese radiators DON'T fit, are made cheaply and you're getting completely ripped off buying them for the prices I've seen people buy em for...

Koyo, PWR, Fluidyne, and even ARC makes radiators for our cars that all are more or less drop in (Koyo was made for the JZA70 so some simple mods are needed for a 7M) and may times these radiators are NOT much more expensive than these cheaply made chinese radiators (ARC is the exception and is crazy expensive...)

 

[Supracentral]

Stock cooling system was designed for an N/A car, it's already marginal IMHO and an overheat will pop a headgasket in short order.

While I agree with the rest of your post, I'd beg to differ on the statement quoted above. I'd even go so far as to say it's patently untrue.

The stock NA system was designed for an NA car. The stock turbo system was designed for a turbo car.

The factory 7M's cooling system is far more than just adequate. I've run substantial horsepower on the stock cooling system provided:

1. The system is well maintained.
2. The fan shroud is intact.
3. The proper coolant/water mix is maintained.
4. The engine undercover is in place.
5. The fan clutch isn't worn out.

I've owned about 15 Supras since 1990, I've NEVER had a problem with the stock cooling system up to twice the original factory horsepower. I've never seen the temp gauge move at all, even under the hottest driving conditions, provided those things above are true.

These days most of these cars have been fucked with or poorly maintained, and you'll see problems, but it's not the design of the system. I still stand by my statement that 99.999 times out of a hundred, the weak link in the MKIII is the current (or past) owner.

 

[Poodles]

True, but the only difference between the N/A and turbo is the fan and fan clutch, the rest of the cooling system is the same. EPC shows a difference in part numbers for water pump, but the -83 on the end just means remanned unit. Radiator is a different number as well, but there is overlapping in the applications.

Having more reserve cooling may be overkill, but it's cheaper than doing a headgasket.

My mentality is if something breaks, fix it with something better if it's available...

 

[Supracentral]

My mentality is if something breaks, fix it with something better if it's available...

No problem with that approach, I use it myself. Having an extra margin of safety is always a good thing. I simply disagree with the statement that the stock system is marginal.