straight out of a horror movie

Chris R

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Jervis Mcstabby;1094230 said:
Are you fucking kidding me? THAT'S what passes as bravery these days? A goddamn bus full of people run from some dick with a knife, and these cowards are called "brave"? That's the most sickening part of this story to me! Then it says they go back in later to "rescue" the poor kid, but here's a newsflash: when someone's already being stabbed, you don't have time to leave and grow a spine!:3d_frown: Ugh...

I was wondering if anyone else noticed. They went back to check? Wtf is that? That's the scariest thing about this. Not the actions of one person on the fringes of society, those types of crime date back as far as humans have existed. It's the lack of courage, and the lack of action of 37 everyday people.
 
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Quin

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Ridiculous stuff like this is exactly why I'm getting a CCP as soon as possible... I can't believe no one tried to help this guy.
 

Keros

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I'd like to clear up a small missing detail. The suspect didn't taunt or intimidate anyone, specifically the victim, for any amount of time. He went from zero to stabbing the fuck out of the guy's chest and neck in the time it took to get out his knife and start stabbing. No warning, no words, no time to react. Let's inject some logic into this situation:

The victim was sleeping, suspect sitting calmly next to him one moment... the next moment suspect is stabbing a knife repeatedly into the victims chest. The guy had time to scream for a second or so before his vocal cords were disconnected.

Sorry tough guys, but unless you're trained and conditioned for it, or atleast experienced, I'd bet it takes atleast 5-10 seconds to truely comprehend what you're seeing, assuming you were sitting on the bus. Atleast another 3 seconds to decide what to do. Doesn't matter what it is you decide to do, chances are you can blatantly see that the victim's head is no longer firmly connected to his body... the fact that he wouldn't even be struggling, or moving, at all, is also a giveaway that you should get the 36 people who are alive to safety before doing anything for the one guy who can safely be assumed to be dead.

Imagine if you got shot in the face, and I had to choose between seeing if you were ok or getting other people to safety: I cannot do both... I'm probably going to make those other people as safe as possible before I go see if you survived a bullet to the face. A cowardly act? Possibly from one perspective... but wouldn't it be dumb to get 2 people killed instead of 1? What sense does that make? I know your chances of survival are low... you just used your face as a high-velocity lead receptical... but everyone elses chances are good, so get them out first. Sacrifice the least to save the most.

That's how I see it anyway. Point furthermore... the suspect was easily caged on the bus while he was preoccupied with maiming his first victim. If anyone's a coward, it's him: attacking a sleeping man with a knife. As a footnote, the suspect was a decent sized fellow who clearly knew what he was doing with a knife.
 

Facime

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^once again you clearly hit the nail on the head.

Even if someone reacted quickly and decisively in favor of the victim, I very highly doubt his life could have been saved.
 

SilverSupraT

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Thank you Keros for saying that before I had to. People claiming that they would have done something different in that exact same situation... come on. Unless you've seen that kind of thing there is ZERO chance the average person done anything better.

Personal example: I came across a car accident in the middle of the night once. Somewhat of a side road but around a sharp corner. A man was laying off to the side of the road, severed in half, and clearly impossible to save. I thought my time was better spent warning anyone else on the road. Does that make me a coward for not trying to give him CPR? I don't believe so.
 

Wills7MGTE

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Work in law enforcement for a few months and you won't be easily suprised so often, people are cold cruel and sick in nature, civilization quells it to a degree but some people just don't give a fuck and do these kinds of things anyway.

There are 3 kinds of people, the sheep (everyday joes, mostly law biding), the wolves (criminals, psycho's, etc), and the sheepdogs (Cops, EMT's, Fireman, Soldiers, Marines, etc). Now all you have to do is figure out where you fit
 

Facime

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Poodles;1098284 said:
He was a fugitive for years I've heard...

22 years to be exact. Only rejoined the legal population a few years ago. Its a rather LONG story so I'll spare it...but lets just say I would never stab anyone. I prefer to let my brain do my talking, not my brawn.

I actually started out life as a "sheepdog" and in fact have a 2 year degree in criminal justice. Circumstances led me run with the wolves.
 

queenskid926

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yea this whole thing made me sick. i still cant believe ppl saw him stabbing and didn't do anything. even if they were to0 late to stop the victim from being fatally stabbed, they could've prevent him from tearing his head off. dude cant even get an open casket funeral now his head is off his body. Really the passengers could've taken him if they were to fight back.