Speedo Cable Year/Model Differences

theKnifeArtist

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I used to have an auto. Then i swapped it for a W58 and the speedo cable was a little long. I ended up tucking it above the trans and not securing it properly. It broke..somehow.

I haven't had a working speedometer or odometer for about a year now.

So i bought another speedo from someone here. It ended up being too short.

I was gonna modify it to work, but fuck it, ill just get the right one.

What's the year and trans type differences so i know what to get?
I'll buy a longer one if need be.
 

SySt

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As far as I know the transmissions all use the same speedometers...They are all cable driven. You must use a mechanical to electronic speedometer speedometer.
 

gtimportfanatic

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i had the exact same situation like 2 days ago.. omg it seems like all the memnbers have the same problem at the same time.. i bought my top part from a member on here for 25 bux because i aint paying toyota 130 for it.. but i also paid toyota 14 bux for the bottom part... when i took out the old one that broke.. this is what i saw

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the one i took off was about 5ft, the one i got was like 4 ... i didnt try it because i was like.. there is no way in hell this shit works.. so i pm'd the member and told him.. he explained it should be the same.. so i said fuck it.. nothing tried nothing done.. so i had the bottom part attached. and then i ran the top part.. from the hole in the firewall right behind where the top of the tranny is.. it ran on top of the tranny then down pass the downpipe.. low and behold it fell right in place.. like.. snug... i was so freakin happy... so.. basically dont just look at it.. u should actually try it to make sure.. because there is only one type of cable for the speedo
 

SySt

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I Guess the verdict is to try a speedo cable off of another Supra to prove your's is broken/faulty somehow. Beyond that, if your speedometer begins to work lets everyone forget the "pleasantries" that all mechanics know.
 

j3pz

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from my understanding, all top/long parts of the speedocable are the same. then there is a lower/short portion for manual cars (r154 and w58 use the same lower portion). on auto's there is a different lower piece that is longer than a 'manual lower piece'.

im certain about the manual cable but not so much about the auto as i have not owned/worked on a supra with one. maybe someone with more knowledge will confirm my claim
 

theKnifeArtist

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okay well then i guess i'll try to install this cable i have that is supposedly too short and see how it fits. If it is in fact too short, then i'll just have to get a lower piece.
I did also realize that my original speedo cable has a 90° elbow at where it enters the trans, and the one i have now doesn't.
 

gtimportfanatic

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theKnifeArtist;1157899 said:
okay well then i guess i'll try to install this cable i have that is supposedly too short and see how it fits. If it is in fact too short, then i'll just have to get a lower piece.
I did also realize that my original speedo cable has a 90° elbow at where it enters the trans, and the one i have now doesn't.

ur suppose to have 2 piece.. the bottom one should just be a str8 piece that connects to the tranny.. and the other one is the one i posted earlier
 

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theKnifeArtist;1157899 said:
okay well then i guess i'll try to install this cable i have that is supposedly too short and see how it fits. If it is in fact too short, then i'll just have to get a lower piece.
I did also realize that my original speedo cable has a 90° elbow at where it enters the trans, and the one i have now doesn't.

The 90 is on the auto cable.
 
Hey, don't mean to go off topic, but my speedo kind of works, I am guessing it's off a quite a bit.

I have A/T light with code 61 Defective No2 speed sensor (in ATM)-severed wire harness or short circuit.

If anyone knows which wire this is, it'd be much appreciated!

I was told one of the tranny's (dont remember a/t or m/t) has 3 wires...
 

Guyana00

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I'd also like to know, I didn't get to check because I threw away my old cable. I have an 87 5spd and swapped in the current speedo cable I have now. It wobbles when I drive so it's on it's way out. I went to the scrapyard and pulled one from a pre 89 auto n/a. I didn't notice any differences in the cables from memory. No 90 deg. elbow, and size seems the same.

I won't know until next year summer when I go to install it. Just wanted to add my part about the 90, since it's supposed to have it. Also curious about it's compatibility.
 

gtimportfanatic

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there shouldnt be any bends in the cable.. its 2 str8 pieces.. a long one.. like my post on the first page, and a shorter one.. on the M/T it bolts to the passenger side of the tranny onto a thing... picture like screwing a lawn hose onto a pipe.. then it should run alongside ur exhaust so make sure when u doing this the car is cold or else :evil2: ...lol... the longer piece comes from that hole in the firewall, behind the motor and runs on the top part of the tranny thats visible from lookin in the engine bay.. and then it should fall between the downpipe and the tranny.. connect them there and bam.. there u go.. as for the speed sensor.. its on the drive side of the tranny about half way up.. and i believe it runs to the back of the car..

maybe this helps a little more

http://www.cygnusx1.net/Supra/Library/TSRM/MK3/manual.aspx?Section=MT&P=49
 

gtimportfanatic

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theKnifeArtist;1158190 said:
aha, and this is also the longer cable correct?
Are we 100% on the part that connects to the speedometer is the same on all of them?

im not sure about the auto's.. because mine didnt have the 90.. but all M/Ts are the same.. and if its a 2 piece.. then the part that connects to the tranny is the short piece.. the part from the speedo is longer
 

metaphysico

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Ok to clear some of this up for you I have been through this. I have a 89 n/a swaped to manual, an 87 turbo stock with 5 speed, and 88 auto n/a and I dont rember what year this other one is. But anyways I have 3 diffrent speedo cables between 3 of the cars unsure of the 4th. The 89 n/a had a 90deg bend in the cable just before it entered the trans, its about 3 inches long if memory serves. When I swaped to the 5 spd I had to remove the end peice.
Now on the other 2 I have not swaped but 1 cable is a long one piece cable, and another is the same lengths but made of 2 seperate cables connected together. If you know swaps then you realize the driveshaft is also diffrent between auto and manual so one trans is shorter than the other probably making up the diffrences in cables. Also you have na and turbo trans that are also diffrent cables, 1 being 1 peice and the other 2. Now what goes to what car I cant rember sorry too many cars and had them apart at the same time so some of the stuff gets mixed up.

One last note for the 61 code If memory serves the sensor your looking for is on driver side rear of trans I think its 3 wires and sits near the output shaft, this is for the abs but I dont have mine pluged in in my na (because the manual i got dosent have the sensor.