SILV exterior awards categories

[A-to-the-J]

Even if we do get 75 cars, we're still going to need a guideline, so I'll see if I can come up with a debatable guideline for the Mild and Wild categories that we all can debate on.

Mild: stock/modified stock front bumper (open grilles, filled in license plate area), stock/aftermarket lip, side skirts, rear add-ons.

Wild: shaved door handles/mouldings, fender flares, aftermarket bumpers, widebodies

Debatable Items/Mods: Turbo A Duct, Cut Grille Opening(license plate area), wings, turn signal/taillight covers.

anything else I missed? Is this good so far Kevin?

 

[upgradedsupra]

Defning wild could be a problem. have a bumper (mine as an example) doesn't make my car wild

My suggestion is:

"wild" body kits which would include skirts and wide bodied cars

"Mild" front bumper, lips, and shaved moldings.

"Stock" well, it says it all.

Randy, your car has shaved moldings and wouldn't be classified as "wild" no more than mine would IMO.

Do what you guys need to do, just make sure you have the drag trophy ready for me when I show up. :sarcasm:

Duane

 

[KeithH]

The problem both Duane's breakdown has is there will be 3 MkIIIs (if that) competing in wild. Not worth the extra trophy cost.

The concept here is how much work.

Stock = no work other than maintenance
Mild = simple bolt ons - something that you could take off the car in 15 minutes or less in a hotel parking lot (Duane, I can hear you thinking already and I know you could get your front bumper off in 15 minutes or less so I've added the rest of this requirement) car must still be 100% legal when the part is removed and not replaced.
Wild = anything else

 

[upgradedsupra]

The problem both Duane's breakdown has is there will be 3 MkIIIs (if that) competing in wild. Not worth the extra trophy cost.

Body kits are all over Vegas which be wild I have pics to show you if you like and I wasn't even there last year.

Duane

 

[SilverSupraT]

The problem both Duane's breakdown has is there will be 3 MkIIIs (if that) competing in wild. Not worth the extra trophy cost.

The concept here is how much work.

Stock = no work other than maintenance
Mild = simple bolt ons - something that you could take off the car in 15 minutes or less in a hotel parking lot. Car must still be 100% legal when the part is removed and not replaced.
Wild = anything else

^ Agree 100%

By no means do I want to (or think that I can) compete vs. anyone in the Wild class just because I have shaved moldings. BUT if it took more than a drill, screwdriver and wrench to put on then it's not really fair to the person that put in the work to consider it merely mild, and vice versa.

KeithH, I don't blame you one bit for wanting to keep the line at stock and modified. But IF you go with a Mild class I think you've come up with a good place to start, it's fairly black and white.

 

[upgradedsupra]

I was going by mere looks. You guys are thinking of mods?

I would be looking at a car and determining what was wild or mild or stock. How would someone that doesn't know anything about cars look at it and determine such a category if they had no clue about cars? yes, I know, they are Supra people that judge BUT, the looks of a car is what I would go by.

My.02

PS: What I am saying goes out the window the way you guys look at it so can pretty much ignore my post.

Duane

 

[SilverSupraT]

Duane - The problem with the way you catagorizing it is that there is no cut-and-dry difference, it's up to the person looking at it to decide if it's mild or wild. Example: I machined SUPRA into my center caps. A lot of people don't have the access/ability for doing that so they might consider it "wild" whereas someone like IJ would look at it as a very minor/mild modification.

I understand where Keith is coming from, he doesn't want to deal with a bunch of whiney people because they were or were not in a certain class.

Probably beating a dead horse here but I'm just trying to help clarify.

 

[upgradedsupra]

Duane - The problem with the way you catagorizing it is that there is no cut-and-dry difference, it's up to the person looking at it to decide if it's mild or wild. Example: I machined SUPRA into my center caps. A lot of people don't have the access/ability for doing that so they might consider it "wild" whereas someone like IJ would look at it as a very minor/mild modification.

I understand where Keith is coming from, he doesn't want to deal with a bunch of whiney people because they were or were not in a certain class.

Probably beating a dead horse here but I'm just trying to help clarify.

Going by merely looking at it is pretty simple IMO. You can look at it like an average Joe. A body kit on a car that didn't come with it would be wild but a simple mod would not. I think it's a simple concept really. :dunno:
Customization wouldn't be wild either. Heck I have tons of custom one off parts in my Supra but it wouldn't classify my car as being wild looks wise. Things can be custom and still be mild. In my experience of going to car show, they categorize things like this as I describe.

Just my.02

No matter what happens, I'm there for the fun!


Duane

 

[KeithH]

One person's wild is another person's mild.

But this is all neither here nor there at this point.

IF we get 75 MkIIIs to prepay their registration fee by the time I have to order the trophies... we'll add the third category.

 

[Nick M]

If it has a lip on it, isn't stock...

 

[csr ma71]

Everyone already has the same Bomex kit so it's not like anyone is going to stand out.

 

[lilazni3uoy]

damn ivan so i must yank mine out now then!

 

[upgradedsupra]

Everyone already has the same Bomex kit so it's not like anyone is going to stand out.

agreed there's more bomex than stock around here.. its ridiculous, kit looks great but at this point I'd say its mild at best being that its so overdone.

Not the point, it's not a mild looking car. Mild would be stock with small add on's.

My.02

I'm sure whatever Keith decides will work fine. I can't wait to see more MKIII's!

Duane

 

[T701jz]

Not the point, it's not a mild looking car. Mild would be stock with small add on's.

My.02

I'm sure whatever Keith decides will work fine. I can't wait to see more MKIII's!

Duane

WILD-
Paint (3-4 stage / custom)
Full Body Kit ( molded / CF-a + / wide-body / custom parts)
Suspension (coilover / wheels)

 

[upgradedsupra]

WILD-
Paint (3-4 stage / custom)
Full Body Kit ( molded / CF-a + / wide-body / custom parts)
Suspension (coilover / wheels)

I am not looking at how much work goes in to it but the look of the car.

Mild is a stock bodied car with minor mods no matter how many coats of paint you have.
Coil overs are not wild and have no idea where that came from. You don't even see them.

The only thing I agree on is what I highlighted red in your post.

Duane

 

[T701jz]

I am not looking at how much work goes in to it but the look of the car.

Mild is a stock bodied car with minor mods no matter how many coats of paint you have.
Coil overs are not wild and have no idea where that came from. You don't even see them.
The only thing I agree on is what I highlighted red in your post.

Duane

I agreed with you on the mild category but for the WILD category these are the things judges looks for and what separated your car from the best of the best.
Would you pick the Best Engine to the 2JZ even with the same Bling as yours? Or what I highlighted in your post?

Noel

 

[Dylan JZ]

Not the point, it's not a mild looking car. Mild would be stock with small add on's.

My.02

I'm sure whatever Keith decides will work fine. I can't wait to see more MKIII's!

Duane

well it sure isnt "wild" either..

 

[KeithH]

T701jz - are you Noel C that we had in the 2006 Calendar?

 

[T701jz]

T701jz - are you Noel C that we had in the 2006 Calendar?

Yes Keith.

 

[upgradedsupra]

I agreed with you on the mild category but for the WILD category these are the things judges looks for and what separated your car from the best of the best.
Would you pick the Best Engine to the 2JZ even with the same Bling as yours? Or what I highlighted in your post?

Noel

Engine is totally different on how it's judged (at least at shows anyway) You can't just go by looks. Of course the details and workmanship is counted for an engine.
Body/exterior wise. I'm simply saying a car shouldn't be counted as wild if it has just shaved moldings for example. Yes, it took many hours to do that but it still "looks" mild looking. Get what I'm saying?

I am just stating my opinion as this is what this thread was intended for right?

Duane