Silencers?

Justin

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Do these really work like they do in the movies? Does the gun really sound like that?

How do they screw in? is the barrel threaded inside? Does it reduce kick like it appears to? Can they be had for a Glock 19 or 21?


on a side note, holy shit, the glock 19 can hold a clip of 33 rounds!
 

JoeC

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yes, they are real, just like the movies. You know when you fire a gun that has no ammo in it, hearing the hammer drop and the trigger pull?? thats all you hear when you shoot a .22 with a silencer. Though, you have to check state laws. They are illegal, and will take you 2-3 years to even get one if you do it correctly filling out all of the paper work.
 

jdub

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Justin said:
Do these really work like they do in the movies? Does the gun really sound like that?

How do they screw in? is the barrel threaded inside? Does it reduce kick like it appears to? Can they be had for a Glock 19 or 21?


on a side note, holy shit, the glock 19 can hold a clip of 33 rounds!


No...you will never see a suppressor (that's the correct term) on a revolver. The space between the barrel and cylinder makes it impossible.

With a well made suppressor, you hear a mechanical sound...the hammer falling and the slide ejecting/chambering another round. Sounds like a loud click. In an automatic weapon, it sounds like a sewing machine on steroids ;)
You also may hear the bullet if using a round that's over 1000 ft/sec velocity...it's a little sonic boom that sounds like a crack...the bullet is supersonic. The sound will be relative to where the observer is standing...it will come from the point abeam where the bullets passes. Use of subsonic ammunition minimizes this effect.

The barrels are usually threaded on the outside. The reduction in "kick" is from the weight of the suppressor. Suppressors are a lot larger than you think...they have to be...they have to absorb the expanding gas in an expansion chamber and most good ones use a baffle system to dissipate the gas energy prior to exit from the end. They make them for pistols, but most commonly it's a .22 caliber to minimize the hot gas it has to handle. The size you see in the movies is BS...for example a very quiet suppressor for the H&K MP-5 9mm is 11" long and 2.5" in diameter.
 

Dachande

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They're actually called "suppressors", and they are legal in some states. Some are threaded, usually CCW, and some are quick detach. They don't sound like they do in the movies, and the only caliber that can really be silenced to near nothing is the .22 like stated above. Other larger calibers like .223 are still going to have a crack, but not as loud as normal. Suppressors also wear out over time, but there are some very nice ones available for around 1000+ bucks that last a very long time.
In SC, you pay the one time non refundable 200 dollar tax, then must have the sherrif sign off on you with all background checks, etc. If you get past that point then you can look into buying a suppressor. Just for knowledge sake(talking at the local gun store), a .22 suppressor for a Sig Mosquito was around 600 dollars base price.

Here's a great link for what you need to know on owning a suppressor
http://www.advanced-armament.com/owners.asp
 
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suprahero

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11" long and 2.5" diameter? I'm not feeling so good about myself right now..........:icon_redf

Sorry for the hijack, but I'm bored..........lol
 

Dachande

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I just remembered the brand of that really nice suppressor. M4 2000
Technical Information
Caliber 5.56mm
O.A. Length 7.0 in (178mm)
O.A. Length added to weapon 5.0 in (127mm)
Diameter 1.5 in (38mm)
Weight 19 oz (539g)
Degree of Suppression -35dB (Dry)
Construction Materials 300 Series Stainless Steel and Inconel
Standard Finish Socom Flat Black Moly ResinTM
Retail Price $895.00
m4.jpg

This one is a quick detach that fits on a special flash suppressor.
 

ma71supraturbo

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jdub said:
No...you will never see a suppressor (that's the correct term) on a revolver. The space between the barrel and cylinder makes it impossible.

With a well made suppressor, you hear a mechanical sound...the hammer falling and the slide ejecting/chambering another round. Sounds like a loud click. In an automatic weapon, it sounds like a sewing machine on steroids ;)
You also may hear the bullet if using a round that's over 1000 ft/sec velocity...it's a little sonic boom that sounds like a crack...the bullet is supersonic. The sound will be relative to where the observer is standing...it will come from the point abeam where the bullets passes. Use of subsonic ammunition minimizes this effect.

The barrels are usually threaded on the outside. The reduction in "kick" is from the weight of the suppressor. Suppressors are a lot larger than you think...they have to be...they have to absorb the expanding gas in an expansion chamber and most good ones use a baffle system to dissipate the gas energy prior to exit from the end. They make them for pistols, but most commonly it's a .22 caliber to minimize the hot gas it has to handle. The size you see in the movies is BS...for example a very quiet suppressor for the H&K MP-5 9mm is 11" long and 2.5" in diameter.



best reply I've read here in ages
 

exander

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suprahero said:
I can't wait two or three years. I need one tonight before my neighbor gets home.

Quite making me laugh and go take pics of your rear tires spinning:icon_bigg
 

jdub

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ma71 - Thanks :)

I was stationed at MacDill AFB in Tampa a while back...SOCOM (Special Ops Command) is there and I got to be friends with some of those guys. Went out to the range numerous times and played with their "toys"...grenade launchers, suppressed weapons, full auto MP-5's, etc. A lot of fun if you like that sort of thing ;)

Dachande - That suppressor is very nice. It doesn't completely quiet the M4 down...cuts the sound in about half I'd say and you still get bullet "crack" when it's fired. From a distance though, it makes the M4 hard to pinpoint and the suppressor completely eliminates muzzle flash.
 

Mr.PFloyd

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hmm, i dont remeber where but i have heard of people using stuff like coke bottles and what not because the sound vibrations would echo around the walls of the bottle. a little ghetto but i suppose if you want to be james bond for a night it could work ;)