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Zazzn

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well i agree guys, i have to say, they do ban for the stupidiest reasons.
I think i've only ever asked for a ban on like 3 people.

Brad is way too vicious sometimes, but he's a very nice guy. They've lost alot of good people over being stupid about it.

I've always tried to be fair and I always try to let things slide unless someone makes a big deal of it.
 
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Tanya

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Brad seems like he is hit or miss...

I have managed to skirt by since 2002 without being banned, not once.

Last year, I PMed mods first, then admins on numerous occasions to find out vendor information (how much it is, etc)... it took MONTHS and several repeat PMs for a reply. Final answer was it basically would be a waste of money on my part to be a vendor on SF, as I am unsure if I could get the money back in sales I'd be putting out to them.

Anyway.... a few threads came up several months ago... various members had found cafepress, or had wanted to know where to find supra shirts. I knew I was risking a banning, but I replied with a link to my store, ALTHOUGH, I never mentioned it was MY store, I am sure it was pretty obvious to some, heh.

Braddman PMed me, asked me to remove all my links, including my link to my supra website (because it has a link to my store), and mentioned that he wanted to warn me before someone else came along and banned my ass, LOL.

Maybe you just have to have tits to not get banned :D
 

Supracentral

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Running a big forum isn't easy. SM is big, SF is ludicrous. It's hard to manage things when they get that big, they tend to develop a life of their own.

However I will say that management skills are management skills.

When it comes to forums, the folks in charge are rarely there because they were selected for skill set. In the case of SF, a lot of the staff were put where they are for a bunch of different reasons. Who they work for, who they are friends for, popularity, etc... I doubt many of them were chosen based on the criteria of having the requisite skills for the job.

If folks don't have a management skill set, they tend to fall back on just being more and more harsh over time until they become assholes. I know I'm known for being very harsh, but I'm generally fair as well. (As for being an asshole, I was like that long before this place was around... :) )

I do agree, Brad is vicious. The users at SF have made him that way. The same thing was starting to happen to our staff here last year. The difference is we recognized it and did something to stop it before it got out of hand.

That's why we downed the site for a day, banned the very small handful of people that were causing us to make the rules more harsh and moved on.

(I will point out that since we banned those folks, we haven't had to add any new conduct rules, in fact we've backed off on enforcement of some of the older ones....)

In a lot of cases, I'll bet the power that some mods wield at SF is the most power they have ever had anywhere. The temptation has to be to become a petty tyrant and to get high on it. For many folks, it's very easy to fall into the trap of becoming a tyrant. It happens out here in the real world all the time when people who aren't suited for a job wind up in charge. You've all seen it. The manager who seems to go out of the way to fuck with his staff, changing people's work hours all the time for seemingly no purpose, etc, etc...

When you're used to managing multi-million dollar budgets and hundreds of people it's a lot easier to not be influenced that way.

Regardless, SF has a right to be run the way the people who own it want to run it. Petitions are generally a waste of time in cases like this.

P.S. - I have never been banned from SF either Tanya. ;p
 

AF1JZ

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Supracentral said:
It happens out here in the real world all the time when people who aren't suited for a job wind up in charge. You've all seen it. The manager who seems to go out of the way to fuck with his staff, changing people's work hours all the time for seemingly no purpose, etc, etc...


The military is a prime example of that. We just can't quit our job and or supervisors/bosses have complete control because of their rank.


Hell, I'm almost afraid to post over at SF for the chance of being banned even though I mind my P's&Q's on all my posts over here. They are just ban happy and seems pretty hard to get banned over here.
 

Supracentral

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AFoneJZ said:
seems pretty hard to get banned over here.

It's pretty easy.

Ignore the rules, and then act like a complete ass when the staff points it out to you.

-or-

rip people off

That's pretty much how most of the people who are on our ban list got there. :)
 

AF1JZ

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You know what I mean though. Compared to SF where you post an ebay link (from what I heard) you get banned. Over here, if a thread looks like it is getting out of hand, you guys explain and lock it so it doesn't get too bad. Everyone that has gotten banned over here deserved it.
 

IJ.

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I found that to be a good Mod you needed to be impartial, if someone was playing up I'd PM them no matter who it was and ask them to back off a bit then if they chose not to I'd take action.

Never been banned from a car forum as rules are rules and it's their sandbox.
 

suprahero

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IJ. said:
I found that to be a good Mod you needed to be impartial,

Who told you that you were a good mod?....................:biglaugh:

SC, please don't ban me. I've been trying to get IJ for a week now, and I couldn't resist................:bowdown:
 

ForcedTorque

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Supracentral said:
I know I'm known for being very harsh, but I'm generally fair as well.

P.S. - I have never been banned from SF either Tanya. ;p


SC...........Don't ban me while I make this analogy. I feel you are much like Simon Cowell here. While some may not like how harsh you deal with things, YOU are always dead on in your evaluations. I've found you to be very fair.

The only thing I have had any problem with is the problem you have with posting in an old thread. We are preached to about doing a search before starting a new post. If we find something in a search, and pry for a little more info to better suit our original search criteria, we sometimes get slapped with the ridiculously old thread remark. And now I have seen you even have a cute little stamp for such posts. But if that's the worst you get, we have one hell of a BIg Guy here. Thanks for beeing so good and impartial!


Tanya said:
Brad seems like he is hit or miss...

I have a skirt on my ass, haven't been banned, not once since 2002.

Maybe you just have to have tits to not get banned :D


Just reading between your lines Tanya
 

OneJoeZee

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ForcedTorque said:
The only thing I have had any problem with is the problem you have with posting in an old thread. We are preached to about doing a search before starting a new post. If we find something in a search, and pry for a little more info to better suit our original search criteria, we sometimes get slapped with the ridiculously old thread remark. And now I have seen you even have a cute little stamp for such posts. But if that's the worst you get, we have one hell of a BIg Guy here. Thanks for beeing so good and impartial!
There's a difference between bumping an old thread to shed more light on the topic and bumping an old thread without any legitimate reason. The majority of thread resurrections are the latter. At least from what I've seen. I don't go through every section looking for thread resurrections though.
 

Supracentral

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OneJoeZee said:
There's a difference between bumping an old thread to shed more light on the topic and bumping an old thread without any legitimate reason. The majority of thread resurrections are the latter. At least from what I've seen. I don't go through every section looking for thread resurrections though.

Ding! Winner!

Seriously. If you catch me bitching someone out for pulling up an old technical thread, please, by all means, call me on it. Pulling up old stuff to get clarification or to expand on the idea should never get you grief.

However, stuff like the ones I've closed lately should get you shit. Like posting to a for sale thread that had it's last post FIVE months ago indicating that the items were sold... :rolleyes:
 

suprahero

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IJ. said:
Try harder Jay ;)

That feebile attempt was my best effort, so now you know how weak my game is.............:biglaugh:

Joe, I didn't see anything funny..............:biglaugh: