IJ.;1699486 said:Not seeing an "8" in that list Poo
Poodles;1699501 said:Same basic trans, just different gear ratios
Answer the question Poo
shifter spins freely
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legolyle;1699473 said:that locknut, its way bigger than the shifting rod. It doesn't do anything but attach to the bottom part of the shifter and sit there....
I sort of assumed that the name "locking nut" would mean something, but I guess not here...
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And I actually do have access to both machine shop and welder, well see, I might just tack it, that would work.
and wow, I had no idea the w58 was a truck tranny as well. Wow, haha, learn something new everyday.
As you tighten the nut, the shifter is supposed to grip the rod harder and harder. I am looking at the manual for the shifter as I write this and it says specifically to tighten the nut just until you can no longer rotate the shifter. Couldn't tell you if you have a missing part but it doesn't appear that you do. How tight are you going? It should be fairly tight but not too tight because it says it can fairly easily strip the threads.
I'll get some detailed pics of the locknut and the shifter up later when I'm home.
but basically, the locknut has a larger diameter than the rod, much larger, by about a 1/4"
so, it just sits there doing nothing, just screws into the base of the shifter-it is possible that it had some sort of collar in before, but it doesn't now. So, that could be the problem.
Like I said, I'll get some pics up of it when I get home, see what you guys think of it.
When I first began attempting to tighten the shifter up (right before I started this thread) I thought: "hmmm, its called the locknut, lets try and get it out and see if there is a part in there that can help hold it onto the shifting rod"
I ended up having to put the assembly into a bench vise and using a monkey wrench on the part sticking out to have to loosen the locknut-it was probably locked in with some sort of loctite. That thing was in there good.
maybe..hmm, thinking about it. There is a slight possibility that as you tighten the locknut down, it compresses the rubber material inside the shifter, compacting it and causing it to grip the shifter more. Thats a possibility. I'll have to do a bit of trial and error-and buy a bigger wrench haha.
but basically, the locknut has a larger diameter than the rod, much larger, by about a 1/4"
so, it just sits there doing nothing, just screws into the base of the shifter-it is possible that it had some sort of collar in before, but it doesn't now. So, that could be the problem.
Like I said, I'll get some pics up of it when I get home, see what you guys think of it.
When I first began attempting to tighten the shifter up (right before I started this thread) I thought: "hmmm, its called the locknut, lets try and get it out and see if there is a part in there that can help hold it onto the shifting rod"
I ended up having to put the assembly into a bench vise and using a monkey wrench on the part sticking out to have to loosen the locknut-it was probably locked in with some sort of loctite. That thing was in there good.
maybe..hmm, thinking about it. There is a slight possibility that as you tighten the locknut down, it compresses the rubber material inside the shifter, compacting it and causing it to grip the shifter more. Thats a possibility. I'll have to do a bit of trial and error-and buy a bigger wrench haha.
legolyle;1699677 said:
Never had one apart before, but that was the impression I got too, but if you tighten it and it still doesn't grab, I couldn't tell ya.
alright, heres some detailed pics of the locknut and shifter (with the DSLR this time! )
In the first two, you can totally see what I meant about how loose the locknut is, it doesn't do a thing.
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0987.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0984.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0007.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0006.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0005.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0002.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0001.jpg
watchya guys think?
I'll be playing with it later, not tonight, but maybe tomorrow or this weekend, to see if I can tighten it up using that thought I had before. But if you guys have any other thoughts/suggestions, feel free to chime in please.
)In the first two, you can totally see what I meant about how loose the locknut is, it doesn't do a thing.
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0987.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0984.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0007.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0006.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0005.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0002.jpg
http://i532.photobucket.com/albums/ee323/legolyle287/DSC_0001.jpg
watchya guys think?
I'll be playing with it later, not tonight, but maybe tomorrow or this weekend, to see if I can tighten it up using that thought I had before. But if you guys have any other thoughts/suggestions, feel free to chime in please.
HAHA no, I posted it like that because when I posted it with the image code it made the page all messed up, and didnt know that it would downsize it like that.
But thanks for schooling me on it
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And thanks guys, I'll try tightening it up on the shifting rod this weekend and see how it turns out and post back.
But thanks for schooling me on it
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And thanks guys, I'll try tightening it up on the shifting rod this weekend and see how it turns out and post back.
alright, so yesterday I had a chance to tear the shifter stuff out again and attempt to tighten the locknut up to see if it would help.
after tightening it, I can say that I noticed a bit of a difference, not a LOT but definitely some. It is definitely LESS loose, haha.
I'm honestly not sure if I tightened it enough, maybe more would help, but I got it pretty far on there, and the shifter is tight enough for me-for now, so thats all that matters.
tightening it up more might help even more, or it might not, In which case tack welds, or glue of some kind would be some of my only options (without replacing it)
so thanks for your help guys, just wanted to let you know of the results
after tightening it, I can say that I noticed a bit of a difference, not a LOT but definitely some. It is definitely LESS loose, haha.
I'm honestly not sure if I tightened it enough, maybe more would help, but I got it pretty far on there, and the shifter is tight enough for me-for now, so thats all that matters.
tightening it up more might help even more, or it might not, In which case tack welds, or glue of some kind would be some of my only options (without replacing it)
so thanks for your help guys, just wanted to let you know of the results
If you glue it you defeat the purpose of the adjustable height assembly. Use something else to take up the gap between the shifter rod and the rubber bushing inside. I have some large diameter electrical shrink wrap here that I bet would work perfectly once heated on.
hm, well, I didn't realize it was meant to be adjustable for different heights, as that actually makes the distance the shifter travels longer and seems rather pointless tbh.
Like I said, it's fine for now, I probably wouldn't glue it or tack it anyway, if I ever needed to get it off again I would be screwed haha.
But thanks for pointing that out.
Like I said, it's fine for now, I probably wouldn't glue it or tack it anyway, if I ever needed to get it off again I would be screwed haha.
But thanks for pointing that out.
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What if you just welded the nut to the shaft at the correct height you want the shifter to sit at? If vibration is an issue use a thick O-ring between the two threaded surfaces. Just a cheap solution......
well, I have some unfortunate news.
Over the past several days, I have noticed the shifter becoming more and more loose everyday.
Now it feels like its back to original sloppiness tbh, it feels just about as loose as before...I'm going to have to take another look at it and try tightening it some more, or gluing it in place.
I don't want to weld it as that would not leave the possibility of pulling it back off easily. Some super glue or something would probably do the trick.
Over the past several days, I have noticed the shifter becoming more and more loose everyday.
Now it feels like its back to original sloppiness tbh, it feels just about as loose as before...I'm going to have to take another look at it and try tightening it some more, or gluing it in place.
I don't want to weld it as that would not leave the possibility of pulling it back off easily. Some super glue or something would probably do the trick.
hm, yeah, I might have to give that a try first, I'll have to find something suitable though, the shifter already has to be pounded on with my fist...any ideas?