Wasn't sure what caused this but it's gotta be the lug nuts. The OD of the nut doesn't fit the ID on the rim.
Guess I'll change the hub and get new lug nuts now...:cry:
Guess I'll change the hub and get new lug nuts now...:cry:
Sawblade lugs + MKIV rims FTL
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damn that sucks. Hmm strange tho the mkiii lugs fit on ma buddies mk4 for like a year and a half no problem.
I ran MKIV wheels with MK3 lugnuts for a long time, with frequent unmounting/mounting of the wheels.
Broken studs that far in are usually caused by overtorquing -- are you sure your shop isn't using an air gun to put the lug nuts on?
Broken studs that far in are usually caused by overtorquing -- are you sure your shop isn't using an air gun to put the lug nuts on?
Yeah I mean how many ppl here use TT wheels on a MK3?
I think most will say that they have the MK3 lugs on them and no problems.
I had them, but didnt run them on the car too long so I cant really say.
I think most will say that they have the MK3 lugs on them and no problems.
I had them, but didnt run them on the car too long so I cant really say.
I ran my MkIV rims with MkIII lugs as well with no problems - except for the one where the "muffin tin" center caps wouldn't fit on correctly because my nuts were too big.
ma71supraturbo said:
I torqued them on with a manual torque wrench. Maybe they were stressed before? I dunno.
Both my rear wheels managed to get loose. Where as my fronts have the correct lug nuts and are fine. All put on and torqued at the same time with the same wrench to the same lb-ft.
do the MKIV rims take special lugs as well. Like the sawblades?
Your broken Bolt looks ike it was over torqued. Had that happen to me before
Your broken Bolt looks ike it was over torqued. Had that happen to me before
bobiseverywhere said:
They should use "mag style" lugnuts just like the mk3. The ones that absolutely won't work are the "cone" style used on many steel wheels...
Pictures ???
I am not sure what the difference is. I am thinking i have the wrong lugs on the mags i have now :worriedlook:
Ninja Edit: Sorry i am not trying to hijack your thread, just curious myself about proper lugs
I am not sure what the difference is. I am thinking i have the wrong lugs on the mags i have now :worriedlook:
Ninja Edit: Sorry i am not trying to hijack your thread, just curious myself about proper lugs
Well these are the old-school domestic "mag" lug nuts:
Here is a Nissan/Toyota OEM "mag" lug nut:
These are "acorn" lug nuts:
"cone" lug nuts (common on steel wheels and many OEM Domestics):
These are "tuner" (specifically spline-type) lug nuts:
From what I was told when I worked for America's Tire, the Acorn and Cone lug nuts are basically the same, with the Acorn being closed. They have no flange, but instead have a tapered seating face that fits into female tapered section of the wheel. Tuner lug nuts are this style, just with a very small diameter to fit into tight wheel holes..
The "mag" style lug nuts are designed to hold a wheel with a washer sitting flush against a vertical wheel surface. The wheel doesn't have a rounded socket for a cone to seat into.
Toyota/Nissan mag lug nuts actually have a cone face with a mag flange -- so you can use them for most types of wheels. This was because the imports often had alloy wheels with a steel spare...
Here is a Nissan/Toyota OEM "mag" lug nut:
These are "acorn" lug nuts:
"cone" lug nuts (common on steel wheels and many OEM Domestics):
These are "tuner" (specifically spline-type) lug nuts:
From what I was told when I worked for America's Tire, the Acorn and Cone lug nuts are basically the same, with the Acorn being closed. They have no flange, but instead have a tapered seating face that fits into female tapered section of the wheel. Tuner lug nuts are this style, just with a very small diameter to fit into tight wheel holes..
The "mag" style lug nuts are designed to hold a wheel with a washer sitting flush against a vertical wheel surface. The wheel doesn't have a rounded socket for a cone to seat into.
Toyota/Nissan mag lug nuts actually have a cone face with a mag flange -- so you can use them for most types of wheels. This was because the imports often had alloy wheels with a steel spare...
HT5SSilverSupraT said:Wasn't sure what caused this but it's gotta be the lug nuts. The OD of the nut doesn't fit the ID on the rim.
Guess I'll change the hub and get new lug nuts now...:cry:
When i worked at a tire shop 99.9% of the errors that caused this is.... ZIPPING (using an air gun) to put the lug nuts on with out turning them a few times by hand to avoid stripping the studs. If it stripped it would stop then who ever is using the gun will just keep it there till it goes al the way on. Which means when you go to take them off BOOM broken studs.
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ma71supraturbo said:Well these are the old-school domestic "mag" lug nuts:
Here is a Nissan/Toyota OEM "mag" lug nut:
These are "acorn" lug nuts:
"cone" lug nuts (common on steel wheels and many OEM Domestics):
These are "tuner" (specifically spline-type) lug nuts:
From what I was told when I worked for America's Tire, the Acorn and Cone lug nuts are basically the same, with the Acorn being closed. They have no flange, but instead have a tapered seating face that fits into female tapered section of the wheel. Tuner lug nuts are this style, just with a very small diameter to fit into tight wheel holes..
The "mag" style lug nuts are designed to hold a wheel with a washer sitting flush against a vertical wheel surface. The wheel doesn't have a rounded socket for a cone to seat into.
Toyota/Nissan mag lug nuts actually have a cone face with a mag flange -- so you can use them for most types of wheels. This was because the imports often had alloy wheels with a steel spare...
thanks man that was some great info
I've had sawblade lugs on so Many MKIV rims on MKIIIs I've lost count, that's
not the problem. I've never ever had a problem in 15+ cars I'd done it to.
Jeff
not the problem. I've never ever had a problem in 15+ cars I'd done it to.
Jeff