RPS 3200 PP w/Stock Toyota Disk???

[tekdeus]

You may want to look at the ACT XTSS 2600 lb clutch with ACT street full-face disc. Rated to hold 522+ TQ. I'm about to install mine, and I'm hoping for smooth engagement and reasonable pedal stiffness.http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/pri.../Clutch_Kits/part/XTSS_-_Xtreme_w_Street_Disc
Info here: but CKanderson here sold me mine for MUCH less.

 

[Poodles]

RPS 3200 = crank walk and dead engine

Not to mention their customer service absolutely sucks ass.

There is a lot more info on this over on supraforums...

 

[Dylan JZ]

RPS 3200 = crank walk and dead engine

Not to mention their customer service absolutely sucks ass.

There is a lot more info on this over on supraforums...

yeah no offense to owners, but they really are terrible.. not performance wise, but if you require that kind of holding capacity you should have gone to a twin plate IMO. this has been documented so many times that I'm surprised it even comes it anymore..

and if any of you with them that haven't bypassed the clutch safety switch, then I doubt there's much hope. it would be plenty stressful with it bypassed, let alone not.

 

[MK3Brent]

I've said it before, but I have both the older and newer versions of the max stg 3 with the 3200lbs PP, and I've never had an issue.

Both installed with brand new Toyota throw out bearings and clutch safety switch disabled.

 

[Dylan JZ]

I've said it before, but I have both the older and newer versions of the max stg 3 with the 3200lbs PP, and I've never had an issue.

Both installed with brand new Toyota throw out bearings and clutch safety switch disabled.

yeah being that its disabled you can probably get away with it just fine.. but then again my experience is with JZ motors, maybe for once the 7m has a slight advantage? J/K:sarcasm: I'm sure its the same in the end, good for you though.

 

[VanSupra]

I've bought (4) of them total to date. (2) of them used from these boards and both from guys that had the crank issues that are talked about. They are working fine and have been for a couple of years now in both cars, one being a 1JZ Cressida and the other a MKIII. I just pulled mine out because my power levels have now exceeded the holding capacity of the pressure plate and clutch and replaced it with the OS Giken Triple. Maybe It's luck?..lol..I personally think it's the build of the engine, but that's jmo.

 

[IwantMKIII]

RPS 3200 = crank walk and dead engine

Not to mention their customer service absolutely sucks ass.

There is a lot more info on this over on supraforums...

yeah no offense to owners, but they really are terrible.. not performance wise, but if you require that kind of holding capacity you should have gone to a twin plate IMO. this has been documented so many times that I'm surprised it even comes it anymore..

and if any of you with them that haven't bypassed the clutch safety switch, then I doubt there's much hope. it would be plenty stressful with it bypassed, let alone not.

I've been using the 3200lb PP for 8+K miles now, now issues. Safety switch is NOT bypassed, i never got around to it.

 

[Dylan JZ]

I've been using the 3200lb PP for 8+K miles now, now issues. Safety switch is NOT bypassed, i never got around to it.

poor thing, oh well..

 

[Poodles]

Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean there isn't a problem.

The thrust washers doesn't have any oil forced into them, they aren't the same kind of bearing as the rest of the engine (more like the tranny where the lubrication is from splashing).

Personally, once I outgrow this clutch I'm going multiplate...

 

[IwantMKIII]

poor thing, oh well..

Just because it hasn't happened yet, doesn't mean there isn't a problem.

The thrust washers doesn't have any oil forced into them, they aren't the same kind of bearing as the rest of the engine (more like the tranny where the lubrication is from splashing).

Personally, once I outgrow this clutch I'm going multiplate...

I currently have the clutch and PP disassembled....i will be uploading pics in my build thread (in my sig) tomorrow sometime...feel free to stop by and check it out and see all the 'damage' it does.

 

[Zumtizzle]

Off Topic: If i didn't bench bleed. Can I use a mityvac bleeder? Or should i pull the damn thing off the car and bench bleed?

 

[Poodles]

You don't HAVE to bench bleed, but it makes life easier. As the system is small it's not as bad as trying to push all the air through the system on the brakes...

 

[Zumtizzle]

thanks poodles!

 

[IJ.]

Off Topic: If i didn't bench bleed. Can I use a mityvac bleeder? Or should i pull the damn thing off the car and bench bleed?

MityVac will work perfectly.

 

[Dylan JZ]

I currently have the clutch and PP disassembled....i will be uploading pics in my build thread (in my sig) tomorrow sometime...feel free to stop by and check it out and see all the 'damage' it does.

sigh. :3d_frown:

 

[Ckanderson]

You may want to look at the ACT XTSS 2600 lb clutch with ACT street full-face disc. Rated to hold 522+ TQ. I'm about to install mine, and I'm hoping for smooth engagement and reasonable pedal stiffness.http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/pri.../Clutch_Kits/part/XTSS_-_Xtreme_w_Street_Disc
Info here: but CKanderson here sold me mine for MUCH less.

:naughty:

 

[tekdeus]

If SO many people wreck their engines using the RPS 3200, how can anyone casually ignore bypassing the clutch switch? Or assume that it won't happen to them? It just makes more sense to run a less heavy pressure plate like the ACT 2600, and also not grow a huge left leg.

 

[Ckanderson]

If SO many people wreck their engines using the RPS 3200, how can anyone casually ignore bypassing the clutch switch? Or assume that it won't happen to them? It just makes more sense to run a less heavy pressure plate like the ACT 2600, and also not grow a huge left leg.

yea i think the ACT is a better comprimise. and if your requiring that much clamping force, step up and go for a spec multi plate,

 

[TheNewRed]

i know your said your wife isnt good at engaging a puck style clutch, but i have the RPS stage two six puck, and my mom can drive it perfectly, so... i mean i think it would hold what you say your planning on throwing at it, and there is ZERO chattering. This clutch feels more streetable than the shitty stock unit imo.

 

[Dylan JZ]

If SO many people wreck their engines using the RPS 3200, how can anyone casually ignore bypassing the clutch switch? Or assume that it won't happen to them? It just makes more sense to run a less heavy pressure plate like the ACT 2600, and also not grow a huge left leg.

Because there are people her who stem from not having a decent sense of logic.. It's been said that "its number one killer of JZ motors," I assume the 7m doesn't favor too well either.

If you ask supracentral or some of the other guys that have been around long enough to see it all, if you're smart, generally you learn to listen to what they have to say.

Not disabling the switch is bad enough as I stated, but then adding a 3200lb pressure plate?.. At that point you have to question if you're just trying to see how long or if you're just completely ignorant. It might not happen today, tomorrow, a week, or month from now. Eventually though, it will happen and if it doesn't well more power to you I suppose, but why would you ever take the chance.