Reusable Oil Filter

jdub

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figgie;1003120 said:
Oh I know that. But I am one to always try something outside of the norm. Hell not very many people run the CM spin on filter much less the remote mount filter :) So I said, what the hay! :)


Exactly! It really comes down to what floats your boat when you get into this class of filters :biglaugh:
 

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filter 100$ and element 15$

*shrug* the new tundras use a replacable element instead of just a filter
im sticking to my purone's and wix
 

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Orion ZyGarian;1003547 said:
BMWs have done that since E36, so 93 or something. The 7 series had a remote filter from the factory in fact. I've definitely considered taking one of their stock setups. I just may do that.


Most new cars are like that.

My 07 CTS has the oil filter that you just replace the filter element. Cost is 5 dollars.
 

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Well, those of us with 7Ms are. 90% of the time, MkIIIs break because of the owners yadda yadda. I'm not going to cheap out now that its my DD and that I care so much about it; I just want the least expensive way to get stuff done right on it; I dont want to spend more than I have to
 

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figgie;1003695 said:
Most new cars are like that.

My 07 CTS has the oil filter that you just replace the filter element. Cost is 5 dollars.

It's funny how this has come full circle. Canister filters were the norm up until the late 50's/early 60's, then everyone went spin-on. I wonder how long until every new car is canister again :)
 

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jdub;1003106 said:
That's the nice thing about a conventional filter and a bypass filter combo. The filter element for the bypass filter is a roll of TP...it filters down to 1 micron ;)
Way overkill, but the filter elements are dirt cheap, so why not!

I've been considering doing this on my DD. How much of an increase in oil life have you noticed by adding the bypass filter?
 

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I have conventional full flow and bypass filters on two vehicles running German Castrol...a MotorGuard on my Toyota truck (R22) and a Trasko T3/4-20s on the Supra (dual filter head). The full flow filters are changed at 4k, the MotorGuard (a roll of TP) 1st change at 1k (should last 3k from now on), and the Trasko has held up at 4k after the 1st one. I could probably go longer with the Trasko filter element as the motor cleans out.

Last oil analysis on the 7M was at 8k and showed minimum wear metals and a normal drop in the additives...TBN (ability of oil to neutralize acids) is holding up at half of new. There was zero water/antifreeze and < 0.2-3&#37; insolubles and fuel...viscosity is holding in spec range. A spot test showed the oil is a dark amber (not black). In the R22, no analysis yet. At 3k a spot test showed the oil looks close to new.

The oil in the Supra is not going to make it's full potential OCI...the motor is going to get replaced soon. If the same analysis trend holds for the truck, it would not surprise me if it will go at least 12k. Keep in mind the OCIs I'm talking about include analysis...the 8k OCI with filter changes at 4k you hear me talk about is a safe interval with a "true" syn oil if you do not do analysis. With analysis, you change when the TBN drops to ~2...the oil adds you do when you change filters like I do above keeps the additives in the oil at the effective level.
 

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^^^Thanks, jdub. Looks like I'll be adding in a bypass filter at some point down the road. Looks like it worth installing.

I'm just about done swapping my GE for a GTE, and I'll be running GC when I put it on the road. I plan on doing a virgin analysis (to establish a baseline) when I get the car running, but was wondering how often I should be running an analysis after that?

Another question I have is, do you have a tough idea of what the baseline #'s are for the GC, or am I better off having the virgin oil tested to establish my own baseline?
 

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An analysis every 4k is good enough. It's best to do a VAO on the oil you are using due to differences in production lots.