removing ABS

[Poodles]

So that explains why my abs didn't work so great last year when some old fart pulled out in front of me in his caddy? Most older abs systems actually suck ass. Compared to a modern lexus or mercedes abs there's no comparison or reason you'd ever want to remove abs in cars like that. But this 1980's abs system sucks the goat's cocknballs.

Actually, it works very well, but your braking distance is dependant on you TIRES more than anything.

More than likely you would have wrecked anyway, stop blaiming the car you sound like all the people that hate on the 7M for getting rodknock.

 

[Dirgle]

The MKIII's ABS isn't all that bad, GM's 1st gen ABS system, now that was total junk. The Supras ABS has saved my ass on more than one occasion. So I'm not sure what the obsession is with calling the MKIII's ABS system junk is but it's simply unfounded.

 

[jdub]

Dirgle - It's junk if it's busted and you don't want to take the time to maintain or fix it.
Kinda like Poodles said about RK...you run it out of oil and it's the motor's fault for getting RK.

 

[4U2QUIK]

at least it's not ford abs from the late 90's.
and actually I just thought about it and gm and ford both used kelsy-haynes abs systems. Talk about some obnoxious pulsation.

 

[Rennat]

the best part is that you only have to change the lines, and not the junction block things.

im suprised you just dont make your own though 4U2QUIK... i mean, its not like you couldnt get the SS tube and the fittings... lol

 

[4U2QUIK]

yes, and I have the bender and the double flare tool. but it can be a royal pain in the ass sometimes.

 

[Rennat]

its only like 5 lines... make a set and i'll buy one kit off you. the brake tubing is CHEAP! i would think that one 25ft roll will do two cars with how long the lines are...

let me know if you wanna get together and figure something out... i still have your leak down tester. haha...

and this may sound a little crazy... buttttt... couldnt we just cut the ends off of your brake lines now and then just pick up the tubing... that way there wouldnt be an issue of finding the right fitting... or go to pick and pull and cut of all of the fittings we need. haha. but if i go out there i'll just grab a set anyways...

 

[4U2QUIK]

The rolls suck to deal with, I can probably get 15' lengths. and yes, it's pretty damn cheap.
I might call you tomarrow if i get all my laundry done.

 

[Rennat]

hahahahahaha.... niceee.

just give me a call, im not doin shit. might just go to pick and pull to see if they have any supras... which im sure they do.

 

[wiseco7mgt]

I can understand why people would want to swap out of A.B.S if they built a car with different engine tranny e.t.c and couldnt get the a.b.s to work properly anyway.If it doesnt work properly its a hazard ..

 

[supradjza80]

the mk3 has very good abs...I would only take the abs off if it was a road race only car.

even if it is engine swapped (1j/2j) that shouldnt make a difference to the abs system...

 

[supraguru05]

none of those lines are discontinued. dont make your own lines all those lines together cost like 70 bucks. go to toyotaworld.com and order them or find a parts car.

just got a quote its 74 plus shipping. one of the lines might be a little big to ship from toyota world so your better ordering that one from the dealer. if your going to remove the abs just use the factory lines they fit in the clamps that are already on your car and fit perfect.

please dont turn this thread into a abs versus non abs thread. i removed the abs for racing reasons. however i am confident in my abilities to prevent or control wheel lockup. if your removing the abs for a cleaner engine bay my opinion is thats stupid but thats not what this thead is about. i have answered your question fully so there. here is what your cart will look like


OEM Catalog
WAY, 3 $15.92 $12.10 $0.00 $12.10 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
CLAMP, BRAKE TUBE W/ $13.72 $10.43 $0.00 $10.43 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
TUBE, RR BRAKE, NO.2 $19.43 $14.77 $0.00 $14.77 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
TUBE, FR BRAKE, NO.2 $10.77 $8.19 $0.00 $8.19 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
TUBE, FR BRAKE, NO.4 $12.98 $9.86 $0.00 $9.86 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
TUBE, FR BRAKE, NO.3 $24.69 $18.76 $0.00 $18.7

 

[supraguru05]

And none of them will be "old school" guys...another "clean-up the engine bay" crusade that results in a host of self induced problems.
I'll be watching with amusement

ouch :cry:

 

[Poodles]

No reason to remove it on a race car... or did you miss what figgie wrote?

On a full out drag car where I was trying to drop weight on the car I can see it.

 

[Rennat]

none of those lines are discontinued. dont make your own lines all those lines together cost like 70 bucks. go to toyotaworld.com and order them or find a parts car.

just got a quote its 74 plus shipping. one of the lines might be a little big to ship from toyota world so your better ordering that one from the dealer. if your going to remove the abs just use the factory lines they fit in the clamps that are already on your car and fit perfect.

please dont turn this thread into a abs versus non abs thread. i removed the abs for racing reasons. however i am confident in my abilities to prevent or control wheel lockup. if your removing the abs for a cleaner engine bay my opinion is thats stupid but thats not what this thead is about. i have answered your question fully so there. here is what your cart will look like


OEM Catalog
WAY, 3 $15.92 $12.10 $0.00 $12.10 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
CLAMP, BRAKE TUBE W/ $13.72 $10.43 $0.00 $10.43 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
TUBE, RR BRAKE, NO.2 $19.43 $14.77 $0.00 $14.77 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
TUBE, FR BRAKE, NO.2 $10.77 $8.19 $0.00 $8.19 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
TUBE, FR BRAKE, NO.4 $12.98 $9.86 $0.00 $9.86 Delete From Cart
OEM Catalog
TUBE, FR BRAKE, NO.3 $24.69 $18.76 $0.00 $18.7

have you ever looked how much brake lines costs?
$70 isnt too bad... but i could go to the junkyard, and the gas, entry fee, and the parts wouldnt cost that much...

and i want to remove it because i drove a non-abs supra for a while and i got use to it. i just want that back... simple as that. nothing about weight, or whether or not its "better"... i want what i know, because i know how to control that.

 

[NashMan]

junk yard my vote in less wana be spiffy and make stainless lines i go to truble to do if i cared that much

 

[Poodles]

If you get junkyard lines, make sure to flush them really well.

On a side note, you never feel ABS unless you need it in our cars, so it's a bad excuse...

Trying real hard not to be a dick, but I've been in all kinds of cars with and without ABS, and ours is VERY good and only steps in when you really need it. Most modern cars are too invasive...

 

[NashMan]

i think the wores abs car i drove was frist year abs cavalier wow that shit is ugly

 

[4U2QUIK]

another kelsy haynes abs system.

 

[got_boosted]

master not needed wonte cause it to lock up
it all works the same

your welcome i just saved you some time

Thanks! Good to know.

My ABS doesn't work. It started out that ABS would activate when it wasn't supposed to and start pulsing whenever I even gently put on the brakes. It actually became dangerous because it would be stopping just fine and then a few feet before where I wanted to stop, it would start pulsing and I'd lose my brakes for a second under light pressure of the pedal. It caused me to roll through a few stop signs, and the car would pull to the left. It doesn't work at all anymore. I'm thinking that a sensor was dying and is now completely dead. Now the ABS light comes on when I start it and the ABS system is disabled. I'm turning the car into a double duty track car that is still easily streetable for when I want to have a some fun. I've had non-ABS Supras in the past, and it takes a little bit more practice to be safe, not hitting the brakes too hard even in panic situations. I plan to take the car to a safe place where I can get some speed and relearn the brakes and hopefully build some good reflexes.