Rant: Im over this spoon-fed tobacco ignorance crap!

[GotTurbos?]

I hate being around people that smoke, I try to make a cancer comment every time I see someone smoking

my grandmother died of cancer partly because my grandfather had smoked since he was little and she had always been around it. Guess that makes me partial to the more active side of the non-smoking group.

Jon

 

[meggs521]

^I don't like being around people that smoke either. I've never had anyone in my family with lung cancer, but I've experienced just about every other kind so lets just say I dislike just about everything that can even remotely increase your chances of getting cancer. And to some extent, I find it rude for people to smoke around non-smokers, but that's just the kind of person I am.

But at the same time I don't know that it's right to have a law saying that people can or can't smoke in certain places.

 

[bigaaron]

I saw my step-uncle in the hospital choking on his own blood with lung cancer until he died, there was blood everywhere because it would not coagulate anymore from all the smoking. What a way to go, choking to death in a pool of your own blood.

Anyone got a light? :nono:

 

[IJ.]

After my accident when I'd recovered enough and had learned how to talk again I had an interesting conversation with the ER Docs that worked on me.

They said If I'd been a smoker they wouldn't have bothered as my injuries would have killed me no matter what they did!

My parents smoked when I was growing up and I saw first hand the effects and didn't need to be told it was a stupid thing to do.
(sadly back then I was a rarity and the vast majority of people smoked so there was enormous peer group pressure)

 

[CTsupra]

hooray for anti-smoking laws! i don't want to sit there and inhale your damn smoke when i'm out eating dinner, or in any enclosed area. it's bad enough that it gets blown into my face out in the open air.

i remember one time some asshole didn't sit in the "smoking section" at a restaurant i was at, and i had to smell his smoke the entire time. i could've complained, or straight up told him to stop, but i had bigger plans. after my friend and i ate our dinner and were handed the check; we got up to leave and i walked over next to the guys' table and unleashed the biggest fart i had conjuring up inside me the entire time i was eating in his general direction. i told him that he had a nasty habit and walked away.

 

[SupraMario]

MDC for president, 2008.
We prolly would take out the middle east too, fix that shit real quick.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

I'm still suprised that inhaling clouds of smoke is bad for you.

 

[Aaron J Williams]

hooray for anti-smoking laws! i don't want to sit there and inhale your damn smoke when i'm out eating dinner, or in any enclosed area. it's bad enough that it gets blown into my face out in the open air.

Why doesn't the government just outlaw tobacco and solve the problem? It's not because all the tobacco farmers would go broke, because sugar cane can be grown where tobacco is grown and sugar is more profitable than tobacco. It's not because smokers (i'm not one) are a majority in our country, they are not. It is because the government makes tons of money on tobacco taxes and tobacco lawsuits, and those in the government elite know that if they can keep us peasants fighting each other, we won't see that they are turning our country into a totalitarian regime through welfare slavery and judicial diktat.

Many thousands of brave americans have died (many smokers) on the battlefield to insure that you have the freedom to sit here and bitch about being offended by smelling smoke. America is not about NOT being offended, America is about freedom to be offensive.

"Those who would trade freedom for security deserve neither and will lose both." -- Benjamin Franklin

What will you do when big tobacco is beaten into submission and they go after fast food or gun manufacturers or turbochargers or something YOU care about? By then it will be to late and you will have helped them to destroy you and disarm those who could have stood up for liberty and dishonored all the blood spilled by Americans to protect liberty.

 

[MDCmotorsports]

^ While reading your post I thought to myself, "Can't outlaw smoking because it opens up a huge can of worms to outlaw all sorts of things..."

Then I read the rest of it. Good post.

 

[solid400]

I don't personally smoke but all the guys I work with do. They are real cool about it always asking me if the smoke is bothering me and if it is, sometimes it gives me a headache they stop. On the other side of that I've been in the situation where some guy is smoking in a non smoking area and when I ask him to please stop or go somewhere else I get the "f you i'll do what I want" It sure would be nice to be able to poor tar down his throat and say "f you i'll do what I want"
In short I have no problem with smoking as long as you are considerate to others.

 

[3p141592654]

Problem is, when some idiot drags his head down the road and racks up $1M in hospital bills I have to pay for it in my insurance premium, and I don't get the choice to tell the guy to go bleed to death for free on the road cause he was too stupid to use basic safety gear.

Exactly! Same thing about the seatbelt and helmet laws. My choice if I want to go splatter my brains out.

Couldn't have said it better myself Ian. Just sad that so many people want more and more freedoms, but want more and more laws taking every one elses' (freedoms) away at the same time.

 

[suprahero]

I only read the first two pages of this thread, but my opinion is this. I have two girls. One is five and the other one is ten. I WANT them to know that cigarettes can and will kill you. I want them to see those commercials so that it will sink in. The first time one of their so called friends offers them a cigarette, I want them to remember those commercials. I think that they are aimed at the younger kids anyways. Adults have already made up their mind about smoking, but they may can still sway a teenager's choice by showing them how many people die from lung cancer every day. That is all.................lol

 

[SupraMario]

I don't personally smoke but all the guys I work with do. They are real cool about it always asking me if the smoke is bothering me and if it is, sometimes it gives me a headache they stop. On the other side of that I've been in the situation where some guy is smoking in a non smoking area and when I ask him to please stop or go somewhere else I get the "f you i'll do what I want" It sure would be nice to be able to poor tar down his throat and say "f you i'll do what I want"
In short I have no problem with smoking as long as you are considerate to others.

thats when you pull the cig. out of his mouth and put it out on his forhead.
then say "f you i'll do what i want"

 

[lagged]

general statement:

what we need is more education (UN BIASED EDUCATION) not more regulations and laws saying what we can and can not put into our bodies.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

People just need to get off their asses and find out information for themselves. The internet makes it so easy, there are also this crazy contraptions called libraries.

 

[Fuzz420]

Want to know the definition of irony?

From the ages of 3 to bout 8-9ish i was one of those kids that would tell you everything. Like did u know smoking is bad.Did u know u lose 7 minutes of your life everytime you smoke, yadayadayada.In that time i got my mom to quite, and my grandmother.When they showed those anti-drug commercial with this your brain(egg) and this is your brain on drugs(fryed egged on frying pan) i wouldnt even eat eggs for years cause i thought it was somehow related to drugs.Now years later, i smoke cigs, and i only mess with pot.

I live in state which primary legal cash crop is tobacco, and primary illegal cash crop is marijuana.There pushing and pushing for people to quite and never start smoking. I always ask the question if people stop smoking how are we(the state) going to make money.Simple They raise the taxes to cover the losing revenue.Im currently paying right around $4 a pack, i know larger citys are paying way more.How high will the price go before before people say im not paying that.Its essentiall the same as gasoline how high will the price go before people say im not driving.Smokers are being exploited and then left outside in the rain litterally.My personal goal is to quite on my 23rd b-day.I try to be as polite while smoking as possible, by not blowing in your direction and such, but i hate when people say some cunning remark about how its bad for my health. I already know, hell ill be the first to say let me go outside and smoke a cancer stick first.Car crashes like smoke can kill you and potentially others. Its the life we live so pick you poison

These are general statements and are not aimed at anyone in this thread. Remember opinions are like assholes,everybody has one.

 

[JustAnotherVictim]

Remember opinions are like assholes,everybody has one.

Not everybody. :aigo:

 

[Fuzz420]

Not everybody. :aigo:

now thats gotta suck. Entrace doubles as an exit:nono:

 

[Slow66]

thats when you pull the cig. out of his mouth and put it out on his forhead.
then say "f you i'll do what i want"

I was gonna suggest putting him in a sleeper hold and asking him how it feels to be able not to breathe....

I personally hate smoking, but i dotn think smoking shoudl be "banned". Most the bars/restaraunts in our area have an outside smoking area, which is a good compromise....no smoking inside the establishment, and no real loss of customers for the owners....

Im all for "the right to be offensive", just dont act suprised when it comes back at ya

 

[swaq]

I agree with meggs on the car accidents deaths statistics. An additional point that could be added is that car accidents are just that, "accidents". Someone made a mistake which caused the accident, be it drinking, talking on a cell phone, fiddling with the radio at the wrong time, smoking , or just plain stupid driving. There is no real safe way to smoke. It's slowly killing you. You don't just suddenly die because you smoked improperly...


Some smoking stories:

My grandmother told my grandfather she wouldn't marry him unless he quit smoking. This was before people really knew how bad smoking was for you. He is 84 now and she is a little younger and they are both still pretty healthy. I'm sure they would not be around any more if he had continued smoking. And my mom, aunt, and uncle would possibly not be in as good of health either.

When driving around town a few months ago I saw a young couple with a baby in a stroller. The guy was smoking right next to the baby. Sad.

The people in the apartment next to mine like to sit out on their porch and smoke. This wouldn't be too big of a deal to me except that my apartment doesn't have air conditioning so I often open the windows to cool it down. If I'm not paying attention their smoke starts drifting into my apartment... I usually end up having to shut my windows and my apartment gets very hot.