radiator seem credible?
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Just read the whole thread (boy this blew up)...I see our engineering student has been skipping a few thermodynamic classes again 
jdub;1094930 said:Just read the whole thread (boy this blew up)...I see our engineering student has been skipping a few thermodynamic classes again
for some reason, its still not clicking. I'm a very visual person, i find it very difficult to 'understand' things i can't see or experience.
edit: btw, im done with both required thermo classes (and did very well in both
), but my lessons from the classroom are whats confusing me i thinkedit edit: yes...ive skipped many lol. I don't learn from in class lessons typically. I learn by doing problems/HW/teach myself with friends
edit edit edit: that haste Rad looks to be a fluidyne replica, minus the shiney factor, my rad was NEVER that polished up. In fact the coating they put on it stained rather easily which was dissapointing, not that it matters now since the fire did a number and since was REfinished with a scotchbright pad. Personally, i think the scotchbright pad looks better than it ever did.
This might help
Expand and study.
88c/190f t-stat.
[thumb]http://ij.supramania.com/logging.jpg[/thumb]
Expand and study.
88c/190f t-stat.
[thumb]http://ij.supramania.com/logging.jpg[/thumb]
^everything appears normal here? Boost goes up, intake temps go up, exhaust goes up, engine temp increases however only slightly after boost run is over which makes sense. Only thing i can think to grasp from this at this point and time is Tstat is mostly closed, as temp increases it opens releasing the hot water into heat exchanger and allowing the cooled water into the engine keeping it SOMEWHAT at a steady temp.
IJ.;1095059 said:
understood. mine doesn't have the excess cooling capacity (which i get where you're going with that now), but assuming i don't (as much as those with a shroud), my point was originally if i lowered my tstat temp to 180, i still don't see why i wouldn't have more leeway in avoiding the 210* mark.
If i boost and start at 192 and it rises 15* before it stops rising, if i start at 180 id still only rise around 15* under same conditions, would i not?
As I said in an earlier post the lower T-stat will only delay getting to the temp your system runs at.
Under power you're generating xx BTU's of heat if you have excess cooling capacity it will run cooler if you it will run hotter.
No t-stat with excess capacity means it will just keep getting cooler, the t-stat keeps it in it's happy zone.
You need to factor in ambient temps as well, during summer I run a lower temp t-start for hot days in traffic with the Aircon as I find this keeps my temps more consistant.
Under power you're generating xx BTU's of heat if you have excess cooling capacity it will run cooler if you it will run hotter.
No t-stat with excess capacity means it will just keep getting cooler, the t-stat keeps it in it's happy zone.
You need to factor in ambient temps as well, during summer I run a lower temp t-start for hot days in traffic with the Aircon as I find this keeps my temps more consistant.
^but by what you guys are saying, my Tstat is for the most part open the majority of the time since i have no shroud. Because of this i can consider it at CRUISING somewhat of a steady state system, since i have no 'reserves' essentially (excess cooling), my temp rises X amount of degrees based on the added heat energy from a boost run. From the boost run my temps raise to initial + X degrees. Assuming its somewhat of a steady state (like i ran it last summer with the cut up Tstat, unkowingly) then if i lower the initial temp, then the final temp after the boost run will be lower as well ultimately avoiding the 210* mark.
Yes I can if you start at a lower temp it will take longer to reach the systems limits BUT you have a MONSTER heat generator in the front of these cars so I was being generous saying an extra 30 seconds....
If the system is that marginal it's time to address any short comings, having said that I also run an electric booster pump for hot summer days in traffic.
If the system is that marginal it's time to address any short comings, having said that I also run an electric booster pump for hot summer days in traffic.
Hmmm.. that Haste radiator is new, and looks almost exactly like my Koyo.
Not diggin the rivets in the end tank, that just screams potential failure point, not to mention it might be covering up the Koyo stamp...
Not diggin the rivets in the end tank, that just screams potential failure point, not to mention it might be covering up the Koyo stamp...
Iwant: A little advice. Like most engineering students (and most newly minted engineers) you tend to over analyze things. Put another way since you don't have enough experience to grasp the intuitiveness of how things work you fall back on your training. That's to be expected but nevertheless is going to cause problems unless you work to avoid it.
There are times when it's best to avoid calculating thought. Forget angle of the dangle, mass of the ass, square of the hair, and heat of the meat type thinking and just look at things from a basic physics standpoint. Finally, if you really are a visual learner, you picked an odd choice of career to pursue...
There are times when it's best to avoid calculating thought. Forget angle of the dangle, mass of the ass, square of the hair, and heat of the meat type thinking and just look at things from a basic physics standpoint. Finally, if you really are a visual learner, you picked an odd choice of career to pursue...
^i know exactly what you mean jj. Trust me, i wish there was a switch to STOP this over analyzing thing but i can't seem to find it, and its not that i do it with just stuff like this...its everything, my decision making skills have been hurt by it. I've always been like that. As far as the 'odd choice of career' comment, not really sure why that would be? Just about any problem i run into i can always some how draw out in my head and if need be solve on paper/computer. I am a very visual learner when it comes down to the concepts, once those are understood im fine with any type of problem thrown at me.
Well, drawing things out in your head isn't what I'd call visual learning but OK, fair nuff. Guess I misunderstood. And stop over analyzing things. It makes reaching decisions about all sorts of things difficult. It'll really screw you up...especially when it comes to dealing with women
jetjock;1095293 said:It'll really screw you up...especially when it comes to dealing with women
Man, oh man...this is indeed the truth!
jetjock;1095293 said:Well, drawing things out in your head isn't what I'd call visual learning but OK, fair nuff. Guess I misunderstood. And stop over analyzing things. It makes reaching decisions about all sorts of things difficult. It'll really screw you up...especially when it comes to dealing with women
that came out wrong, i meant that once i understand the concept and seeing how everything works, later on down the road if its not in front of me, i can very easily see everything in my head, and if need be draw it out.
Regaurding the women comment.......:3d_frown::3d_frown::3d_frown::3d_frown::3d_frown::3d_frown::3d_frown::3d_frown:...ill just leave it at i really really wish there was an off switch :biglaugh: