Radar blockers
- Thread starter loki2043
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Police don't know all the laws. I've got several relatives in the PD who will be the first to admit that. Hell I've been ticketed twice for things that were completely legal in the city and state I was in.... I beat them both in court since I knew the statutes that applied. Otherwise I wouldn't have been surprised if the judge had found for the officer's case and upheld the ticket.
Your best bet in any situation where laws and regulations are concerned is to do your own research and get all the info verified.
EDIT: BTW, CA law is some of the worst written, self nullifying and confused legislation I've read in a while. They have a clause for EVERYTHING, but no details defining what explicitly constitutes a given term.
Another nice one: your car alarm may emit a sound when set off... any *siren* sounds are illegal. So 90% or the alarm systems out there are NOT legal for use in the state of CA.
My favorite thing is the mandates on lighting height.... which does, by the way, supercede DOT regulation concerning OEM equipment being legal so long as the car came that way.
In most cases very little of this would probably ever end up on someone's ticket, but if you piss off a cop who does know his shit, you could get MAJORLY screwed.
Your best bet in any situation where laws and regulations are concerned is to do your own research and get all the info verified.
EDIT: BTW, CA law is some of the worst written, self nullifying and confused legislation I've read in a while. They have a clause for EVERYTHING, but no details defining what explicitly constitutes a given term.
Another nice one: your car alarm may emit a sound when set off... any *siren* sounds are illegal. So 90% or the alarm systems out there are NOT legal for use in the state of CA.
My favorite thing is the mandates on lighting height.... which does, by the way, supercede DOT regulation concerning OEM equipment being legal so long as the car came that way.
In most cases very little of this would probably ever end up on someone's ticket, but if you piss off a cop who does know his shit, you could get MAJORLY screwed.
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Here's one more:
V.C.28150 - This covers the products this thread is about.
(a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.
(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.
(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.
(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision (b), the person is guilty of a misdemeanor.
(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.
^^^That's for CA, by the way. I did a quick search and can't find anything in Oregon's laws prohibiting scrambling/jamming devices. But there may be a statute I missed or it may be up to the counties/cities.
V.C.28150 - This covers the products this thread is about.
(a) No vehicle shall be equipped with any device that is designed for, or is capable of, jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.
(b) No person shall use, buy, possess, manufacture, sell, or otherwise distribute any device that is designed for jamming, scrambling, neutralizing, disabling, or otherwise interfering with radar, laser, or any other electronic device used by a law enforcement agency to measure the speed of moving objects.
(c) Except as provided in subdivision (d), a violation of subdivision (a) or (b) is an infraction.
(d) When a person possesses four or more devices in violation of subdivision (b), the person is guilty of a misdemeanor.
(e) Notwithstanding any other provision of law, a person who has a valid federal license for operating the devices described in this section may transport one or more of those devices if the license is carried in the vehicle transporting the device at all times when the device is being transported.
^^^That's for CA, by the way. I did a quick search and can't find anything in Oregon's laws prohibiting scrambling/jamming devices. But there may be a statute I missed or it may be up to the counties/cities.
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1. radar jammers are illegal
2. from all I've seen everyone says they don't work
3. escort and valentine make great radar detectors should save you a bit
4. Let off gas petal
2. from all I've seen everyone says they don't work
3. escort and valentine make great radar detectors should save you a bit
4. Let off gas petal
I've been running a basic Uniden radar detector for 10 years now. Quite often I get notice of a radar trap well in advance of driving through it. My unit doesn't detect laser well at all, but I believe cops never use laser at night, in the rain, or from a moving vehicle, so MOST traps tend to be radar. In my city, I'd say that 8 out of 10 of the speed traps that I have gone through were using radar, not laser.
A detector is not a guarantee, but it IS worth having. Get one.
A detector is not a guarantee, but it IS worth having. Get one.
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valentine v1 is the best radar detector and jammer. kills the escort buy it and be happy. it also has kits to hide the units for detecting n jamming
Fuzz420
Are U Here 2 take My Baby
Tase-The V1 is and excellent unit but it in no way jams signals, that is illegal by federal law. The so called rocky mt. radar that claim to do this dont work, any ways.
89turbo- I posted a link to that page, ive ran both the escort and the v1 the v1 reacts faster due to the better filtering of the 8500 x-50, but other than that they are right on par, except one cost more than the other one
89turbo- I posted a link to that page, ive ran both the escort and the v1 the v1 reacts faster due to the better filtering of the 8500 x-50, but other than that they are right on par, except one cost more than the other one
JustAnotherVictim
Supramania Contributor
I've been looking into anti-speed detection equipment for a little while now, and I've got a best bet for ya...
First of all Radar "jammers" are worthless. The end. Get a detector
Second, Passive laser jammers are worthless as well.
What you need are four things to basically be invisable.
Radar Detector: Passport 8500 X50, or the new Beltronics RX65. If detectors are illegal in your state get the Beltronics STi, as it can't be see by radar-detector-detectors (RDD's). All pick up radar being used from a long distance. I've used an 8500 and can vouch for the V1 as well. They are solid products and may save your ass.
Laser jammer: The blinder X-treme is the only way to go. Beats every other jammer by something like 40-50% accuracy. (see RadarRoy's test @ raderbusters.com)
Coating: VEiL stealth coating, RadarRoy says "Proven to reduce targeting range up to 73%." You apply it to your cars highly reflective surfaces like headlights, signals, etc.
Photo speed detection: Super Protector license plate cover. Blurrs your plate number from certain angles, keeps speeding tickets out of your mailbox. I don't know much about these b/c photo enforcement hasn't came to this part of Texas yet, but its a huge business.
about $825 for everything.
my .02
First of all Radar "jammers" are worthless. The end. Get a detector
Second, Passive laser jammers are worthless as well.
What you need are four things to basically be invisable.
Radar Detector: Passport 8500 X50, or the new Beltronics RX65. If detectors are illegal in your state get the Beltronics STi, as it can't be see by radar-detector-detectors (RDD's). All pick up radar being used from a long distance. I've used an 8500 and can vouch for the V1 as well. They are solid products and may save your ass.
Laser jammer: The blinder X-treme is the only way to go. Beats every other jammer by something like 40-50% accuracy. (see RadarRoy's test @ raderbusters.com)
Coating: VEiL stealth coating, RadarRoy says "Proven to reduce targeting range up to 73%." You apply it to your cars highly reflective surfaces like headlights, signals, etc.
Photo speed detection: Super Protector license plate cover. Blurrs your plate number from certain angles, keeps speeding tickets out of your mailbox. I don't know much about these b/c photo enforcement hasn't came to this part of Texas yet, but its a huge business.
about $825 for everything.
my .02
i'll have to look into the blinder... The only ticket i've gotten from actually speeding was going arround a blind corner on the highway and coming face to face with an interceptor. Radar detector went off i was doing about 116 i managed to slow down fast enough for the cop to only read 86 but i was caught.
I have a POS cobra radar detector, its picks up everything, but then again it picks up everything including the doors at safeway. It does help, but its only as smart as its user. I havent gotten a ticket in over a year just from knowing when to speed, i do it allot and i keep my attention up and an open eye for blind spots where i could get caught.
as Grimjack said its all in the driver. I rarely pay attention to my radar detector because i learned how to change my driving.
I have a POS cobra radar detector, its picks up everything, but then again it picks up everything including the doors at safeway. It does help, but its only as smart as its user. I havent gotten a ticket in over a year just from knowing when to speed, i do it allot and i keep my attention up and an open eye for blind spots where i could get caught.
as Grimjack said its all in the driver. I rarely pay attention to my radar detector because i learned how to change my driving.
Adjuster
Supramania Contributor
For a few years I drove a Ford Tarus company car that had DRL's. (Daytime running lamps.) There was no way to turn them off, and the company prohibited us running radar detectors. (Go figure, an insurance company banning detectors... LOL)
So, did I speed? Sure.
Did I ever get any Lidar tickets?
Nope.
Was I in danger of that? Yes, and every time I noticed that the PD officer would wiggle the gun around slightly, and then frown, and by that time I'd be slowed down and if they did get a reading, it was only of a speed that was either leagal, or lower to the point where they did not care.
I'm sure DRL's saved my ass many times as they use Lidar quite a bit here in the Boise area. (Every motorcycle cop has one, and they sit around behind signs and bushes and I see people pulled over all the time by those guys.)
I'm thinking of adding the Blinder to my car, and have considered adding some cheapo driving lights near the license plate so they are on any time the car is running. (Blinded the PD with cheapo Walmart lamps.. that would be classic.)
For the rear, you have to run lamps/led's that only put out light at the same freq. as the Lidar, but that is not very hard to do. (Blinder sells the lamps you need, and even some are mounted on "frames" for your plate.... Figure that and two lamps under the stock tailights would do the trick. (What you need are the Euro fog lamp housings that go under the stock tail lamps, or just add the blinder LED's into your stock tailamps and let the light diffuse out and confuse the Lidar guns.)
Too bad about states who have laws against Lidar jammers. (Does that include DRL's? LOL I doubt that would hold up in court, especially since running with your lamps on during the day has proven to be safer than no headlights...)
I see that WalMart is selling radar guns for kids now. (And they even have a conversion so you can get "speed" readings for scale model cars like Matchbox or Hotwheels...) Wonder if they transmit on X or K band, and if they are leaky. (IE, do they spray out radio waves all over the place, so your not only throwing out radiation on a specific bandwidth, but leaking up and down the scale...?)
Would be awesome to buy a few surplus "Hotwheels" radar guns, gut them, put the parts in potting material so it's waterproof and mount it behind your bumpers front and rear... (Active jamming at it's best, but totally illegal.)
So, did I speed? Sure.
Did I ever get any Lidar tickets?
Nope.
Was I in danger of that? Yes, and every time I noticed that the PD officer would wiggle the gun around slightly, and then frown, and by that time I'd be slowed down and if they did get a reading, it was only of a speed that was either leagal, or lower to the point where they did not care.
I'm sure DRL's saved my ass many times as they use Lidar quite a bit here in the Boise area. (Every motorcycle cop has one, and they sit around behind signs and bushes and I see people pulled over all the time by those guys.)
I'm thinking of adding the Blinder to my car, and have considered adding some cheapo driving lights near the license plate so they are on any time the car is running. (Blinded the PD with cheapo Walmart lamps.. that would be classic.)
For the rear, you have to run lamps/led's that only put out light at the same freq. as the Lidar, but that is not very hard to do. (Blinder sells the lamps you need, and even some are mounted on "frames" for your plate.... Figure that and two lamps under the stock tailights would do the trick. (What you need are the Euro fog lamp housings that go under the stock tail lamps, or just add the blinder LED's into your stock tailamps and let the light diffuse out and confuse the Lidar guns.)
Too bad about states who have laws against Lidar jammers. (Does that include DRL's? LOL I doubt that would hold up in court, especially since running with your lamps on during the day has proven to be safer than no headlights...)
I see that WalMart is selling radar guns for kids now. (And they even have a conversion so you can get "speed" readings for scale model cars like Matchbox or Hotwheels...) Wonder if they transmit on X or K band, and if they are leaky. (IE, do they spray out radio waves all over the place, so your not only throwing out radiation on a specific bandwidth, but leaking up and down the scale...?)
Would be awesome to buy a few surplus "Hotwheels" radar guns, gut them, put the parts in potting material so it's waterproof and mount it behind your bumpers front and rear... (Active jamming at it's best, but totally illegal.)
6th sences does it for me , something tells me to slow down i do 12 sec later
bam cop outta no were never been pulled over. can explane it. it just happens
iv also blown past cops doing 170 (1 time) and had them do nothing so it may be just luck
bam cop outta no were never been pulled over. can explane it. it just happens
iv also blown past cops doing 170 (1 time) and had them do nothing so it may be just luck
ChadMKIII said:
Illegal,
it is not a STATE offense no, it is a FEDERAL offence and trust me. It don't take the FCC much time to triangulate source of signal.
speed dodici said:
doubt it. He might have one of those passive non-sense that don't work. Active. Sorry not happening without some advanced understanding of localization, harmonics, wave-guiding and what makes a jammer work (hint: it is not the RF freq that gets pumped out by the RF gun, it has to do with the innerworkings)