Racing BMW M3's

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well my friend has a 95 m3 that had only intake and exhaust with 70k on the motor. anyways with 3" exhaust and intake @7psi on a ct26 60-1 it wasnt the best turn out for me.

i was hard on my car hard just to hang with him. i couldnt pull on him till after 100mph .

now his car reams mine:nono: can you say built motor with gt35

-shane
 
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prsrcokr

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The new 335 has an inline 6 w/ twin turbo. It s closer to the mk3's weight than the old 'trim' m3's were (3550lb or so)

It's ashame Toyota's dropped turbos when BMW and Honda finally have one.
 

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Maybe Toyota realized that the Turbo is outdated technology (it can still be improved upon though) and they use Hybrid drives now. The turbo is much better for a tuner, but the hybrid engine is much better for the person who is not going to modify their car.
 

GrimJack

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bowsercake said:
Maybe Toyota realized that the Turbo is outdated technology (it can still be improved upon though) and they use Hybrid drives now. The turbo is much better for a tuner, but the hybrid engine is much better for the person who is not going to modify their car.
Tell that to Porsche, who just released a 500+ hp capable turbo that hits full spool at 1700rpm by virtue of variable vanes on the exhaust wheel. :D
 

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E36 M3's might handle better, might have better stock 1/4 times, might have better traction..... whatever, but they are FUGLY!!!! Maybe they wouldn't be so ugly if te other 3-series would never came out, but since they DID come out, you put a 99+ 318 or whatever next to a 98 M3 and it'll make it look fugly. I like how the supra looks much more!!!

Now, if it's an E46 we're talking about, it's a whole different story!! Much better looking and 330 stock HP, I think stock 13.4 1/4 mile? .. I'd love one of those as a daily driver! :)
 

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lifesnotfair said:
E36 M3's might handle better, might have better stock 1/4 times, might have better traction..... whatever, but they are FUGLY!!!! Maybe they wouldn't be so ugly if te other 3-series would never came out, but since they DID come out, you put a 99+ 318 or whatever next to a 98 M3 and it'll make it look fugly. I like how the supra looks much more!!!

Now, if it's an E46 we're talking about, it's a whole different story!! Much better looking and 330 stock HP, I think stock 13.4 1/4 mile? .. I'd love one of those as a daily driver! :)
this made me happy... i was wondering where you were going but the "FUGLY" made my day
 
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mkIIIman089

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lifesnotfair said:
Now, if it's an E46 we're talking about, it's a whole different story!! Much better looking and 330 stock HP, I think stock 13.4 1/4 mile? .. I'd love one of those as a daily driver! :)
As far as accessible cars go, the E46 M3 is definitely the most bad ass looking!
 

esteban1490

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my dad used to have an E36 and i have to say it was like driving a go-cart. good handling and very fun to drive, but I would give the supra the edge in a straight line.
 

Isphius

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You my friend are crazy to say E36 M3's are all top end.. Yes, they are mean on the top end, but they are also very torquey.. Another reason for their impressive acceleration is the amount of traction they're given to start with.
I had a '99 for a day long testdrive once and it was very impressive for a stock car.. I raced my buddy's turbo rsx-s and beat him by a half car.

The 96-99 is the 3.2, and i cant comment on that, but the 3.0 e36 is all top end. It has no power till 4000 rpms, less torque than an NA 7m, the only real improvement is the 7m flattens out about 6000 and the m motor will keep pulling till 7000. I test drove a 95 for an hour with no salesman and i would have bought it if not for the lack of low end power. But what I would like to do is put that s50(3.0L) motor in an e30 3 series...which is a 2300 lb car. The 3.0 is better for turbo projects and responds better to mods because it has a better flowing head and intake manifold. As for beating one in the supra, I was alone in my slightly modded NA, and i beat an e36 m3 with 4 kids in it. took him off the line and he couldnt catch up! so you should have no problem with a turbo+mods
 

vas85

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GrimJack said:
Tell that to Porsche, who just released a 500+ hp capable turbo that hits full spool at 1700rpm by virtue of variable vanes on the exhaust wheel. :D

Along with 620nm of torque too :aigo: ... all out of its humble 3.6

Engine
Type: Twin-Turbo Flat-6
Displacement cu in (cc): 220 (3596)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 480(353) / 6000
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 460(620) / 1950-5000 :aigo:
Redline at RPM: 6750

Will be interesting when VGT Turbo's hit the mass tuner market...
 
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Isphius

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mercedes has a 690hp twin turbo 6.0L v12 in there kinda small AMG roadster car, not sure what its called anymore, and also in the s65 amg. But all this talk about the m3 makes me want one again, too bad there like 15 grand even for the 95 or 96 model.
 
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