R154 Problems

[SupraSean]

Ok, so im driving home today, and i stop for gas. i start pulling out in first and it pops out... so im like wtf, i threw it in second and it was fine. well started gettin closer to home, and it did it again, and again,,,,and ,,,,,again. so ive pretty much come to the conclusion that my first gear synchro's is bad. now i have two choices at this point, either
1. I buy the new synchros and have someone put it in. or
2. i Swap in the Other r154.

regardless i will need someone with a lift to do both so i am kinda fucked either way. does anyone know how much a new synchros is, and how much of a bitch it is to replace. its only first gear.

 

[suprahooked]

Driftmotion sells rebuild kits, look in the vendors section.
1st gear thrust washer is bad.

 

[SupraSean]

yea, cuz i mean it will start grabbing the gear but as i ease the clutch out, it just pops. how hard is it to change the thrust washer

 

[CajunKenny]

First off, you won't need a lift to drop the tranny. You need four jack stands, a floor jack, the required tools, and an extra set of hands will help; but, isn't necessary.

Second, you don't want to go through all the work of dropping and disassembling the tranny to rebuild first gear. That's just stinking thinking.

Buy the rebuild kit from Driftmotion, drop the tranny, and bring it to a tranny shop and have them rebuild the whole thing. If you feel that you're mechanically advanced enough, you can save yourself some bucks and go rent the required tools to disassemble the tranny and rebuild it yourself.

Another piece of GREAT advice is DO NOT disassemble the transmission, forget where things go or how to put it back together, and THEN bring it to a tranny shop.

Most shops will probably turn you away and IF one is daring enough to take the challenge, there is a good chance that it won't go back together correctly.

And then, depending on the condition of your clutch, throwout bearing, etc... THEN is a good time to replace those items also.

 

[SupraSean]

ok, so the clutch is new, not sure about throwout bearing, ill find out tomaro. but if i wanna do JUST the thrust washer for now, do i still have to drop the whole tranny?

 

[rayall01]

ok, so the clutch is new, not sure about throwout bearing, ill find out tomaro. but if i wanna do JUST the thrust washer for now, do i still have to drop the whole tranny?

Yes!

 

[CajunKenny]

Second, you don't want to go through all the work of dropping and disassembling the tranny to rebuild first gear. That's just stinking thinking.

Yep.

I think I just quoted myself. Is that legal...? :sarcasm:

 

[pogoism9]

There should be a new clause in the TOS "If you do something dumb, even when people told you it was dumb and you did it anyway, you will be banned for a week"

Moral of the story, going through all the trouble of pulling the trans and pulling it apart just to fix 1st gear is DUMB.

Sorry for the bluntness, but DAMN.

 

[rayall01]

OK how's this? You take the spare trans, and get it rebuilt. Then you swap out your broken one. Now, get that rebuilt, and then give it to me. Then everybody's happy!

 

[shaeff]

1) Grab one from Marlin Crawler, then send yours in for the core charge.

2) Never worry about your transmission failing. (Well, I don't want to say never, but you'd REALLY have to abuse a MC rebuilt R154 to kill it)

 

[loki2043]

i had first pop out at one time.
The shifter was loose where it is bolted in the tranny under the shifter boot. Check this first. may save you a rebuild.
well i guess you will have to check it anyway to pull the tranny...

 

[SupraSean]

well, took the tranny apart, my first gear is actually fucked up pretty bad. so im going to swap it out now. and prob just scrap this tranny, idk how but im pretty sure teeth chipped.

 

[GrimJack]

1) Grab one from Marlin Crawler, then send yours in for the core charge.

2) Never worry about your transmission failing. (Well, I don't want to say never, but you'd REALLY have to abuse a MC rebuilt R154 to kill it)

Hey dude, any clue what it costs to buy one from MC? I was digging in their site, and I can figure out shipping, but there doesn't seem to be a price listed for the actual transmission.

 

[CajunKenny]

I just called them yesterday.

1195 plus shipping.

 

[shaeff]

Yep, it's between $12-1400 shipped as of the last time I checked. That's the route I'm going for sure!

 

[GrimJack]

Not a bad idea at all... thanks guys, I may very well do this next time I need to drop it to replace the clutch.

 

[suprahooked]

I just installed a Marlin Crawler r154 and i love it. They make a short shifter too and it works great.

 

[CajunKenny]

Yep. Same here. I may do one this summer. I'll have to check on the short shifter. Any idea how much that costs?

 

[shaeff]

I believe that the shortshifter is included in the price.

 

[CajunKenny]

That'd be the sweetness right there!