r-154 tranny to 2jz?

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ive been kinda having a battle in my own mind on either building my 7m or switching to a 2j, i really want the power and reliability of a 2j, but just building my 7m would be about the same cost as the swap, but with 250 more horsepower. a big reason i want to keep my 7m tho, is my transmission, it has the shortest shift out of any car me, or anyone who has sat in it, has ever seen (its about an inch each shift) so ive been wondering, will a r154 bolt on to a 2jz? or do i need to switch the transmissions as well?

and if i did the swap, what needs to be done to my mk3 to fit a 2jz properly?
 
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check out my thread - you are only about an hour from me so if you are in denver you can stop by any time to check it out
 
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ah, so would it be more worth it to just make the sacrifice and just go with the 2jz 5 speed tranny? it would come with the motor from tigerjapanese.com

tlo86 - that sounds awesome. id really like to see one in person to get a better feel on exactly how much needs to be done.

also would i need to change anything else ie, rear end gears, driveshaft, ect?
 
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GeneStarWindGSW said:
it cost alot to do a 5spd swap with an r154 to a 2JZ. So i don't recommend it to everyone but it all depends on what you wanna do.
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not really.... I spent 1000 all together with buying another r154, flywheel, and clutch kit... and other misc. parts..
 
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ah. ty joezee.
so after reading it it doesnt look like too much trouble for me to keep my r-154, since i read along the way that my diff and the tranny can hold what im looking to have (looking to have the car at about 750-800 whp)

so then just to make sure i read it correctly:
i have an r-154, a 7m clutch, 7m flywheel, 7m bellhousing.

i need to get a 1jz bellhousing, and 1jz flywheel for a 2j to bolt up to my r-154.
is champion jay toyota going to have most of these? or does anyone have any good links?

also this is what the motor comes with from tigerjapanese:
$2,900
Complete Motor
Complete Head & Block
Distributor, Intake Manifold
Exhaust Manifold, Alternator
Power Steering Pump
Fuel Rail, Injectors
Throttle Body, ECU
5 Speed Transmission, Starter
Twin Turbo, Wiring Harness

is that all im going to need (along with the 1jz bellhousing and flywheel) to get it all in? or is there a few more things needed?

one of my main questions now is if the r-154 is going to work right with the 2j's ecu

also does anyone know if there are any places selling a more complete, or cheaper 2jztt?
 
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$2,900 ? that must be for a 1jzgte front clip the 2jz turbo didnt have 5 speed they only had 6 speed or auto, unless its a vvti i dont know about.
check my thread again i kind of went into detail about this

1jz flywheel
1jz bellhousing
7mgte clutch - after that its all mkiii supra
new flywheel bolts (you are not supposed to reuse these, i bought ARP's)
new transmission bellhousing to block bolts (the automatics are too long)

i had to add a bunch to my list because the r154 i bought didnt come with a clutch or any of its little friends that are hard to track down and take weeks to ship :)

and you can get the 1jz bellhousing/flywheel from ANY toyota dealer you just need the part numbers (which any toyota dealer can give you then you can call up a cheaper store online, or just ask them! either way yo uare gonna talk to someone Lol, just like getting a lexus part from a toyota dealer...) through a dealer it will be over $1000 for just a bellhousing + flywheel but a cheaper store will get both for about $500
 
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tlo86 said:
$2,900 ? that must be for a 1jzgte front clip the 2jz turbo didnt have 5 speed they only had 6 speed or auto, unless its a vvti i dont know about.
check my thread again i kind of went into detail about this

1jz flywheel
1jz bellhousing
7mgte clutch - after that its all mkiii supra
new flywheel bolts (you are not supposed to reuse these, i bought ARP's)
new transmission bellhousing to block bolts (the automatics are too long)

i had to add a bunch to my list because the r154 i bought didnt come with a clutch or any of its little friends that are hard to track down and take weeks to ship :)

and you can get the 1jz bellhousing/flywheel from ANY toyota dealer you just need the part numbers (which any toyota dealer can give you then you can call up a cheaper store online, or just ask them! either way yo uare gonna talk to someone Lol, just like getting a lexus part from a toyota dealer...) through a dealer it will be over $1000 for just a bellhousing + flywheel but a cheaper store will get both for about $500
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yea i already have the clutch and stuff, i have an 87 turbo, 5 speed but www.tigerjapanese.com sells a 2jzgtte with a 5speed manual.

Also, will i need a new exhaust system? i have a megan racing 3 inch downpipe, 3 inch test pipe, and an obx 3 inch turbo back exhaust.


if i dont need any new exhaust this SHOULD be about what im looking at (if anyone spots something that is wrong please let me know)

i plan on getting the 2j and having it at BPU+ level as soon as its dropped in, and a few months later putting in HKS 264 camshafts

2jzgtte - 2,900.00

BPU+:
greddy profec B type 2 - 329.00
AEM true time cam gears - 320.00
greddy BCC - 99.00
hks ssqv type 2 - 400.00

1jz bellhousing - 300.00
1jz flywheel - 235.00
1jz motor mounts - 180.00
7m/1jz clutch kit - 450.00




5,213.00 to get engine in and running at BPU level.


HKS camshafts - 798.00





6,011.00 for 2jzgtte at bpu+ fully swapped into mk3
 
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You will probably also need the ps hose, throttle cable, oil pressure adaptor hose, ARP flywheel bolts, ic and ic piping, intake, oil, coolant, atf, mechanical or electric fan setup, etc... With all the upgrades you are including there's no way it's going to be in the car and running for $6k. I would bet it goes over $8k before you're all done.

I also didn't see ignitor or map sensor in the list of included accessories. You should get the list of included items in writing from them before you send payment.
 
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You will also need alot more then an oem clutch if your 2JZ will have ~750hp
Tilton or Osgiken might do the trick.
May need tripple plate depends if you plan on shocking the tranny and your torque figures also.
 
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Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE said:
You will also need alot more then an oem clutch if your 2JZ will have ~750hp
Tilton or Osgiken might do the trick.
May need tripple plate depends if you plan on shocking the tranny and your torque figures also.
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my current clutch holds 740 torque and 600 hp. the engine will sit at about 400-500 for a while till i decide if its enough power to have fun with, i see what bigaaron was saying in that i will also need a new IC and piping. this will be an expensive swap but i think itll be well worth it. would anyone suggest a 1j over a 2j, with reasoning? im very partial to both engines and would like to know what people think.

as you can tell this is all in the planning stages, i like my 7m but i want the reliabilty and power of a jz motor. what im looking for is an engine that can give me about 500-800 horsepower and still last me a few years. im tired of going for a quick sprint and getting paranoid about rodknocks every time i hit triple digits lol.
 
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The 1JZ is cheaper it comes complete with the tranny you need and most the parts mount brackets and haves the oil pan sump on the right side!

Also the 1JZ is verry capable 7-800hp pushing its upper limit but a to a 2JZ 700-800 is its mid hp limits

1JZ revs a lot higher then 2JZ yet 2JZ cost more will have more down time but haves more torque

1JZ with a GT35R 8000 rpm redline ='s drifting machine quick predictible spool up to 500rwhp a little fun at the track high 11s to low 12s factory twins high 12s to low 13s on quarter

2JZ will be a drag demon it will secure low 11's for sure wont be as fun to drift on the track
 
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Evilempire1.3JZ-GTE said:
The 1JZ is cheaper it comes complete with the tranny you need and most the parts mount brackets and haves the oil pan sump on the right side!

Also the 1JZ is verry capable 7-800hp pushing its upper limit but a to a 2JZ 700-800 is its mid hp limits

1JZ revs a lot higher then 2JZ yet 2JZ cost more will have more down time but haves more torque

1JZ with a GT35R 8000 rpm redline ='s drifting machine quick predictible spool up to 500rwhp a little fun at the track high 11s to low 12s factory twins high 12s to low 13s on quarter

2JZ will be a drag demon it will secure low 11's for sure wont be as fun to drift on the track
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where can i find a site that sells a 1j with all that? also i guess i should ask my original question again, will a 1j bolt up to my r-154? will i only need the 1j flywheel now? tigerjapanese.com sells a 1j complete motor with no tranny for 690$
 
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