Possible Restoration?

mk34lyf

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foreverpsycotic;1011077 said:
Wow... Just wow...

Do you
a) Just want to piss people off
b) Have more money than brains
c) fall between the ages of 15 and 18 and have no money
d) have NFI

....It's just a question
 

Poodles

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New technology?

Most modern cars are still catching up...

About the only place I can see getting modern technology would be in traction control and newer ABS systems. Personally I HATE new ABS systems that have brake assist, the Supra's system is only there when you NEED it, not getting in the way all the time...
 

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Poodles;1011435 said:
New technology?

Most modern cars are still catching up...

About the only place I can see getting modern technology would be in traction control and newer ABS systems. Personally I HATE new ABS systems that have brake assist, the Supra's system is only there when you NEED it, not getting in the way all the time...

Very true. The MkIII was WAY ahead of it's time. If driving your car every day and spanking newer cars doesn't prove that to you, I don't know what will.

As far as the quality of parts on newer cars... the only way I can even think of explaining this is to relate it to todays machinery. I personally work with a machine that's older than my car. It's dead nuts reliable. We tried out a new machine for 2 weeks and put it through the paces that we put our machines through, and within that time frame we had the machine fail epically... multiple times.

Electronics is a different department. Newer electronics are awesome. Getting them to work with your current vehicle would be difficult, but it could be done.

For the most part, you would be trying to implement a system into a car that wasn't designed to have it, or it was designed for a different vehicle, so changes would have to be made.
 

mk34lyf

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SupraMaster;1011525 said:
Very true. The MkIII was WAY ahead of it's time. If driving your car every day and spanking newer cars doesn't prove that to you, I don't know what will.

As far as the quality of parts on newer cars... the only way I can even think of explaining this is to relate it to todays machinery. I personally work with a machine that's older than my car. It's dead nuts reliable. We tried out a new machine for 2 weeks and put it through the paces that we put our machines through, and within that time frame we had the machine fail epically... multiple times.

Electronics is a different department. Newer electronics are awesome. Getting them to work with your current vehicle would be difficult, but it could be done.

For the most part, you would be trying to implement a system into a car that wasn't designed to have it, or it was designed for a different vehicle, so changes would have to be made.

Yea, you know like how people restore hot rods. They have to make a new dash and put a full a/c system, windshield wipers, etc. Everything, b/c all they have to work with is the base frame. Thats kinda what I wanted to do with my Supra, b/c I know no one ever took care of these cars (well I know mine wasn't)..
 

suprabad

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silvergsx623;1010406 said:
I would guess around the 50k mark.

If you are paying someone else to do the work, and we are talking about a true "ground up" restoration (i.e. complete disassembly, R&Ring everything that isn't replaced, and using as many new OEM parts as possible) and no shortcuts. I would say $50k might not even do it. Not to mention minimum of 6 mos for the average shop to complete.

I don't picture too many of these kinds of restorations on Mkiii's happening until these cars appreciate a considerable amount in value.

Even if you had the dough, it's just hard to justify in case God forbid you had to sell it. You'd lose your shirt.
 

mk34lyf

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Well, then maybe not full OEM. Maybe just all custom. Less expensive, right? Buy an a/c and windshield wiper kit (if they make), custom dash, custom interior, full body/chassis restoration, make my own ghetto rigged switches for everything, full head light conversion, lots of body work, 2jz swap, etc.

Is it possible to remake the door panels, or should I just recover them along with all other panels in leather?
 

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mk34lyf;1012371 said:
make my own ghetto rigged switches for everything

How do you go from full out OEM rebuild to that? No offense, but if you can't get over a bit of sticker shock, I wouldn't try a resto project. Nothing EVER goes right and you never have the right parts. It's a bitch, to say the least.

But...

I spent almost $1k on side moldings for my 82 Supra...


I'm up to probably $10k+ in my 82 and I'd be lucky to get half that back (even if it were a more 'popular' color)
 

Keros

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mk34lyf;1012371 said:
Well, then maybe not full OEM. Maybe just all custom. Less expensive, right? Buy an a/c and windshield wiper kit (if they make), custom dash, custom interior, full body/chassis restoration, make my own ghetto rigged switches for everything, full head light conversion, lots of body work, 2jz swap, etc.

Is it possible to remake the door panels, or should I just recover them along with all other panels in leather?

I don't see why you need an a/c kit... just rip the system out of a A70 that had A/C and install it in your chassis if you don't have A/C. The A70 has an advanced HVAC system for its vintage, there's nothing to gain by fucking with it. A simple recharge could make your A/C and heater work better than most new cars today. How many cars have automatic climate control as standard?

windshield wiper kit? what's wrong with OEM? Clean up the arms and spray on some new paint, if yours are damaged, get new ones off someone parting out.

It's not hard to fix up your supra with hand-me-down parts if you clean them up, fix them up, paint them, ect. You will end up buying new parts, yes... but you can avoid it here and there.

Yeah, alot of people redo their interior, there's lots of options, search around the forums... it's been talked about alot.

A full chassis conversion? Yeah, if you knew body work and could weld really well, knew shit about chassis design you could certainly do it. My theory would be to weld up a tube steel frame to set everything on, make some brackets to hold the body panels on, sheet metal in the cabin, and then spend hundreds of hours figuring out the million tiny details to make it work... and then wonder if you'll die horribly in an accident. Then fight with insurance companies to get any kind of insurance.

There's almost nothing you can't do... if you have the time and money to dump into it. But the question really begs towards bang-for-the-buck... is it something you'd really want to do with your money?

As soon as you put the words "custom" and "automotive" into the same sentance, it's probably going to get expensive fast.