Pontiac GTO

Justin727

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Well saturday night I was out for a drive in the Supra. Just enjoying the view along the beach. Well a very confident 04 stang GT comes up besides me acting like the wants to play!! I'm cruising with him revving in my left ear and i see a light up ahead hoping it'll turn red. Well as it starts turning he floors it and ends up running the light as I stopped. Well I figured d@mn that would have been fun to put ANOTHER stang in its place.

Well as I sat at the light a silver GTO pulls up next to me and I look over at my gf and tell her ya know this thing might get me because all I'm running right now is intake, exhaust, bov... I was hoping he would run it just to see how bad he would get me!

LIGHT turns green and me as usual starts off slow and so does he and I'm just waiting for him to get on it! BAM there he goes he gets the jump and I quicky get in it! Top of 1st im at the back of his door then 2nd I get dead even granted he misshifted but quickly recovered and top of 2nd I pull about a foot then I slam 3rd the happy gear and he's falling good car back and I look in my rear view and see he is slowly creeping up on me and I look at my tack and I've noticed I'm getting out of my power band a few rpms from redline then I shove it into 4th and pull another half car on him then he shuts down.

Afterwards he was real cool I came up behind a slow moving van and he let me over and followed me to a local hang out right on the beach. Shook my hand and introduced himself. Asked what I had done and I kindly told him besides a built motor performance wise just intake and exhaust. He was cool about it replied "I'm proud to say I got beat by a supra than some honda POS!" I was happy for the night and just watched others race along the beach!

I don't know which year GTO it was but I'm thinking 05 because it had hood scoops and it had to be the ls1 350hp cause I'm sure if it was the ls2 he would have left me sittin. I shouldn't have even pushed my car for the simple fact that I have a blown rear strut and wheel hop is just stupid on that one side but I was eager to see how well the supra went up agianst something with 350hp but the only thing that we both had in common was the fact both our cars are heavy GTO's are in the 3800 area!
Good run all together and I'm satisfied but as of now the supra sits untill I fix the strut! Thanks all!
 
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Justin727

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need new tires said:
factory hood scoops with dual exhaust =ls2 and 400hp

nice kill tho

Ah really? I thought there was a transitional period much like our 89's? Hmmm well I would expect more from a car with 400hp even if it did weigh 3800 either it was driver error or the car just really isnt all that impressive?!?!

But thanks for the props everyone!
 

3.0T91

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As a GM tech, there are huge frictional losses through the powertrain of those behemoths. Even with the latest and greatest synthetics, the engine has to do all that work of motivating 3800+ pounds. Simple physics, really. Actually, you two were about even, and here's why. The GTO weighs more, and has more mass. It's 400 crank horses were working harder than your ?? crank hp to motivate more mass. So even though you had potentially less hp, your horses were working more efficiently, in true japanese fashion.
 

MassSupra89

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2.5tt89 said:
As a GM tech, there are huge frictional losses through the powertrain of those behemoths. Even with the latest and greatest synthetics, the engine has to do all that work of motivating 3800+ pounds. Simple physics, really. Actually, you two were about even, and here's why. The GTO weighs more, and has more mass. It's 400 crank horses were working harder than your ?? crank hp to motivate more mass. So even though you had potentially less hp, your horses were working more efficiently, in true japanese fashion.


But 100 more hp and only 300 more pounds? I've never raced them head to head, but I've driven a 250whp Supra, and a stock 340whp '06, and the GTO woulda whooped me in the Supra.


Nice kill, It's always the best when you get to talk to them after and the respect is there.
 

Justin727

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yea the respect was there and that was the best part because unlike many he can admit his defeat and give me props. guys are running 13.8 stock in these cars. But from what I've gathered the car gets hot after hard runs and the ls2 hates heat and poorly performs with all the heatsoak as like any other engine but the ls2 in the gto heat soaks more so.
Thanks Mass for the props!
 

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there whas a gto meet up at the track, the BEST i saw was a 14.1 out of a stock car. Most ran 14.5-14.6 and a twin turbo car ran 12.6 @12x mph.
must have been 10 goats out there.
 

MassSupra89

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I was talking about GTO's today with a few friends and they claim the GTO's, and any sports car with the LS1 GM made (Camaro, TA, GTO, etc.) had a safety in them, that when you were WOT and tried shifting to second at redline, you had to go to 4th, then back to 2nd...:icon_conf
Now I've driven an 04 with an LS1, an 06 with the LS2, and had my friends WS6 for a few days, which believe me I beat the crap out of and never had this occur...
Can anyone confirm this? Had an experiance? Ir reminded me of this thread since the OP said the GTO miss-shifted going into 2nd. Maybe he was just fumbling around with the seamingly useless shifting safety.
Apparently you can take the safety off pretty easy, but the cars I drove were stock.
 

Quin

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BS. That happens below 25% throttle only, not at WOT. GM threw that in there to dodge a gas tax. You can get it programmed out. I didn't know it was on the GTO, but it's definitely on all fourth gen fbodies
 

MassSupra89

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Quin said:
BS. That happens below 25% throttle only, not at WOT. GM threw that in there to dodge a gas tax. You can get it programmed out. I didn't know it was on the GTO, but it's definitely on all fourth gen fbodies


Hmm did not know that, I've never experianced this driving any of them... Dumbest safety I've ever heard of, I don't even see the use. A gas tax? what's the theory behind that?
 

supraracer49

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My friends DSM has a intake and full exhaust on around 20 psi with everything else stock and it can stay with a ls1 GTO
 

Justin727

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There is a GTO here that runs in the mid to high 12's all motor but thats the only 1 i've seen do it. The others just intake and exhaust. I'm not sure IF his car was stock or not but I'm assuming it is agian I didnt ask him at all. Misshift or not I still would have beaten him just would of had to pull him in some.

Supraracer thats interesting..
Remember that at the time I ran this guy I was on stock turbo with just intake, exhaust and 11psi and that was agianst an LS2 Gto.
Thanks everyone!