Piggyback

1JZ30

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Hello all, I wanna ask advice about piggy bag. I have an AFC NEO , got it second hand cheap from my friends and i was wondering if its good for tuning heavy modds (bigger turbo, injectors, etc etc) instead of using full management system.
 

tlo86

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yeah those are only good so far... if you cant afford a standalone there are some better piggybacks like the map ecu
 

Bigzavs

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standalone > piggyback > piggy bag


dont know how good a bag full of pigs will tune a heavily modded car


:biglaugh:
 

88supraTT

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if you get really crazy and don't have alot of money you could try to track down a vpc gcc setup with the correct injector chip. but i do agree standalone ftw.
 

suprastanger507mgte

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1JZ30;940047 said:
c'mon guys .. i just want to know more about tuning .. im not here to get sarcasm because of my bad english . if you don't wanna help, then f**k off

lol, no need to get mad. I think people gave the answers in between the sarcasm and Jokes. :biglaugh:

I think a SAFC-II can be used for your needs. I would prefer greddy emanage blue though .
 

suprahero

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1JZ30;940047 said:
c'mon guys .. i just want to know more about tuning .. im not here to get sarcasm because of my bad english . if you don't wanna help, then f**k off

Glad to see you can take a joke.............:rolleyes:
 
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This is a new member people and yes joking is cool but you guys all know he just wants some answers so come on, help me out some. :) I cleaned this thread up some.

If you can afford it, go stand alone as it will benefit you in the long run. Piggy backs are also fine but only to a certain amount of power IMO.

Duane
 

rakkasan

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Piggybacks only adjust AFR's, not timing. Piggybacks scale the air flow signal to the ECU, and the ECU adds more or less fuel accordingly. For mild builds, this is fine because you're not leaning out the AFR too much for stock timing. However, for bigger power builds, a piggyback would have to scale the fuel a lot more, but the stock timing is still being run by the stock ECU. This could be disasterous.

Choose your path
 

IJ.

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All depends on goals and your budget.

A good standalone will run everything in the car and allow room for expansion
a [thumb]http://www.leroye.com/blog/images/girlie/piggybag.jpg[/thumb] won't ;)
 
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IJ.;940547 said:
All depends on goals and your budget.

A good standalone will run everything in the car and allow room for expansion
a [thumb]http://www.leroye.com/blog/images/girlie/piggybag.jpg[/thumb] won't ;)

It was only a matter of time for you to chime in. LOL
 

cbutler

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people have made significant power with the SAFC, you just need to know what your doing. For most peoples goals they work great.
 

1JZ30

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rakkasan;940528 said:
Piggybacks only adjust AFR's, not timing. Piggybacks scale the air flow signal to the ECU, and the ECU adds more or less fuel accordingly. For mild builds, this is fine because you're not leaning out the AFR too much for stock timing. However, for bigger power builds, a piggyback would have to scale the fuel a lot more, but the stock timing is still being run by the stock ECU. This could be disasterous.

Choose your path

ohh! thanksss!!!! i understand nowww :D