OMG...road in my friends dads Porsche TT tonight...

ma71supraturbo

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I haven't come across a motorcyclist with the balls (or lack of brains) to ride fast enough on a windy road to keep up with me. I'd love to take it to a track, but obviously bikes and cars don't share track days... I don't think its a problem of potential, but rather praticality -- how many times do you drop a knee when you ride on the street? Bikes can take better lines, but they don't have near as much room for error as a car...
 

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LMFAO Simman Funny I stumbled on these videos...

http://www.turbomustangs.com/carsvsbikes/996turbovsf4i.wmv

http://www.turbomustangs.com/carsvsbikes/porschegtrvsf4i.wmv

Taken from this site http://www.carsvsbikes.com/ His f4i has 11k miles and minor mods, ("mods" slip on pipe, geared one tooth down in front and a K&N air filter. The rider weighs 205lbs and is not a pro.)

So a 996 is the fastest car you have ridden in yet your Supra suposly kept up to a f4i... Odd I see a nearly stock F4I walking away from a 996... and you say top end?

"Many cars will start to catch up and the 500+ rwhp cars will really come flying up at 140ish where the race typically end."

AND

"For comparisons sake 95% of the races are from a 40roll. Many of the cars were dyno'd the same day of the race."

THERE now im calling BS you never raced a F4I and hung with him... and if you did... here this website already says it,

A: The bottom video shows what happens in a typical street encounter. The cocky bike rider will not try hard at the beginning (let's face it, they usually don't have to try against 99% of streetcars)

B: he didnt know how to ride.


*coughs* Simman you got some splanin to do.
 

TONY!

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ma71supraturbo said:
I haven't come across a motorcyclist with the balls (or lack of brains) to ride fast enough on a windy road to keep up with me...
”Lack of brains,” -hey now! Heheh
I can say the same thing about cars never being able to play in my experience.
ma71supraturbo said:
… I'd love to take it to a track, but obviously bikes and cars don't share track days...
Just compare track times. Can you access those? Keep in mind that different tracks can make different machines shine: there are tight technical tracks and then there are tracks with longer straights. I live about five hours from Loudon International Raceway and that is the most technical track for racing on the bike circuit. Other machines also race there also.
ma71supraturbo said:
… how many times do you drop a knee when you ride on the street?...
It is A LOT harder to control a bike than it is to control a car. Very few riders can hold a line through twisties at speed. The bike handles very differently when it is laid down. It also handles very differently and requires different rider imputs at high speed as well as compared to low speeds. Very, very few riders ever come close to mastering a bike through the twisties. For a car, you just turn the wheel to turn. For a bike you would need lots of balance at your feet and your seat and your hands also, to be able to have the precision required. A bike can handle very differently just if you have a slightly different stance than you usually use. Most will never be able to represent a bike’s capabilities.
ma71supraturbo said:
…Bikes can take better lines, but they don't have near as much room for error as a car...
Bikes give a lot more adrenaline to their operators than cars ever will because of the danger factor. It is the danger involved in racing bikes that makes them the number one adrenaline pumping activity there is. (What else can give a steady supply of adrenaline?) There are lots of rules you have to NEVER break when racing a bike or bad things will happen. I could make at least two pages out of that alone, and that is an open list that you always add to. Learning how to race a bike is more dangerous than actually doing it. The beginning stages are more dangerous to a novice although slower speeds are used, than higher speeds are to a skilled rider.

Actually, Racefiend also said something very similar to what you just said, in your post, Jeff.
 
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lanky189

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Bikes give a lot more adrenaline to their operators than cars ever will because of the danger factor



:umno:


adrenaline is released when a perceived threat or event triggers it in your brain...for you bikes maybe the ultimate adrenaline rush, for others skydiving, road racing, rally racing, public masturbation, chewing strange gum from under your desk.

everyone's system is different, and everybody get's there jollies from different things. Give me a caged and seam welded datsun 510 and a 30mile dirt road stretch and I'll get more adrenaline than any bike could give me.
 

TONY!

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GrimJack said:
Thanks a bunch! I really enjoyed that a lot.
That Atom is amazing. The only thing is, the Atom is more like a formula one car than a supercar, or what a modded car could ever be. I can't believe that the tires were not really that wide and it still handled amazingly. If I can say though: they compared (as ShagsSupra said) a supersport bike (600 class) to something that was above a supercar.
I think that maybe the rider was less than spectacular also.

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lanky189 said:
...adrenaline is released when a perceived threat or event triggers it in your brain...for you bikes maybe the ultimate adrenaline rush, for others skydiving, road racing, rally racing, public masturbation, chewing strange gum from under your desk.

everyone's system is different, and everybody get's there jollies from different things. Give me a caged and seam welded datsun 510 and a 30mile dirt road stretch and I'll get more adrenaline than any bike could give me.
Ever race a superbike throught twisties?
Skydiving lasts how long? Bungie jumping would be a thrill also, but too short.
Public masturbation is for psycho freaks. Chewing gum under a desk is for idiots.

When you wheelie coming out of a turn in second, that's the shit.
Well at least we agreed that it was the most imaginable adrenaline kick for me.
 
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It's got to stop, you can't compare bike's and cars. they are totaly diffrent machines. On a fast course with alot of long streches the bike will probebly win and on a twisty course it's going to get raped!!

But just to piss of every bike rider. When restrictions and money is not a problem the car is going to win, because it will get more traction. Just look at motorsport and you'll see that what gets you fastest from point A to point B.
(and im not a bike hater, wish i had a 1000cc)
 

TONY!

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ShagsSupra said:
Yes! That is a match between a supercar and a superbike. That is the best vid I have ever downloaded from a forum! Too bad it wasn't a Jap bike though. I don't really like Ducatis; I am a four cylinder bike fan. Btw, I downloaded all of the vids from that site: http://www.carsvsbikes.com/


Here is the best drag racing vid I have seen in a while. It is a Hayabusa vs an MKIV. The car wins.
http://www.speedtoys.com/~daveh/vids/4-04-10.32.wmv

Here is a listing of sport bikes and their numbers, although I think they may be optimistic maybe, if anyone cares:
http://www.sportrider.com/bikes/146_perf_nums/
http://www.motorcyclistonline.com/performancedata/