OMG...road in my friends dads Porsche TT tonight...

[siman]

MY GOD.

2002 ( 3500 miles on it) Porsche 996 twin turbo AWD.

6 speed......0-60mph in 3.9 seconds..

I have never felt a launch like this in my LIFE......nor pulling power above 100+mph in a manual like this before.

That car was amazing........I cant find the words to say...I am speechless :aigo:


and damn it was comfortable too! :naughty:

 

[TONY!]

MY GOD.

2002 ( 3500 miles on it) Porsche 996 twin turbo AWD.

6 speed......0-60mph in 3.9 seconds...

I have never felt a launch like this in my LIFE...

I have
http://powersports.honda.com/the_st...itle=TimeLine&cookieOff=1&randnumber=16603.87
Easy prey for me.
0-60 in 2.9 seconds :icon_bigg 1 second quicker :evil2:
But only sometimes I can launch it perfect with the front wheel slightly hovering over the road, but it is hard.

Dragracing is not my thing. I like it on roads like this SUSJ -- twisty curves

 

[ShagsSupra]

f4i's 0-60 is 2.9 aswell.... and this is the fastest thing youve been in but you claim to keep up with a F4I in the kills section?

ha.... Funny.

 

[TONY!]

But bikes loose their steam at higher speeds
They are not so aerodynamic.
Like my bike can easily take a stock MKIV 5 speed twin turbo at the lower speeds, but the advantage is theirs at maybe like 130 mph.

Bikes and cars have very different strenghts and weaknesses. All depends on what kind of racing you will be doing. I think that cars can take bikes on some turns, but on most, bikes will have the advantage.

In short:
Bikes are light and have a high power to weight ratio which is good for 0-100 acceleration.
Nice power to weight ratios are great for acceleration.

Cars are more aerodynamic for their horsepower. The heavy weight is not such a factor towards acheiving top speed.
Nice power to air drag resistance ratios are great for top speed.


All depends on what kind of racing it is.

 

[ShagsSupra]

But bikes loose their steam at higher speeds
They are not so aerodynamic.
Like my bike can easily take a stock MKIV 5 speed twin turbo at the lower speeds, but the advantage is theirs at maybe like 130 mph.

Bikes and cars have very different strenghts and weaknesses. All depends on what kind of racing you will be doing. I think that cars can take bikes on some turns, but on most, bikes will have the advantage.

In short:
Bikes are light and have a high power to weight ratio which is good for 0-100 acceleration.
Nice power to weight ratios are great for acceleration.

Cars are more aerodynamic for their horsepower. The heavy weight is not such a factor towards acheiving top speed.
Nice power to air drag resistance ratios are great for top speed.


All depends on what kind of racing it is.

by the time a bike hits 130 the average mildley modded car is gonna be so far behind its gonna be near pathetic lol... When crusing at 55 and I pin the throttle and get to 120 (my top speed on my bike cause its super scarry lol) any car that was beside me looks like its nearly a mile back, there is a small streach from leaving my girlfriends road and the store I always gun it from the road to the store, my bike will do 110 by the time I get to the light and my GTP will only do 60 lol and my pull from my bike and EXPECILY my cousing gixxer 1k while crusing at 55 is unbeliavly harder than any car ive been in.

 

[TONY!]

I can relate.

The only thing I wonder about is how fast more expensive sports cars can go through turns.
I know that I can hit this one turn that has a sign of 40mph at 110mhp.
Usually the formula for me when I used to ride like that was to take the suggested rating and multiply it by 2, then add 5 - 10. Take that number and figure out what gear it corresponds to best, and hit it.

I would love to know what some cars can get on turns if they are rated by the same system. Some areas have signs that are overrated, while other areas have signs that are underrated. I imagine that it has to do with whoever the traffic engineer/engineering team was/were used to set the speed suggestion signs.

 

[ShagsSupra]

haha im not the only 1!!!!

I look at speedlimits around turns and I try and do double it around the turn lol. theres 1 here thats a 55 mph road then theres a 15! mph turn on it, I can only do it 25 in my car maybe 30 but I dont like to cause it slings me around with my leather but I can do it at 45 on my bike. and only get a little sketchy.

 

[TONY!]

Yeah, I definitely don't recommend street racing at all.
I am lucky I survived all that stuff.
Many get messed up.

I just like to know how cars compare on technical roads, that is all.
I think that cars may have the advantage on very tight turns, while bikes are better at higher speed turns.


Siman, your thread got hijacked. lol
I am sure it will be back on track.

 

[lanky189]

congrats siman, sounds like one helluva ride.

 

[aye mate]

mmm Porsche... I so want a gt2

 

[siman]

Shags, we did a 90kick. It was fair that way. Since we have totally different weights...every car has the top speed advantage so to speak....

I won in the car aspect...of course the bike pulled a little faster on top end but we both have the same virtual top end ( gearing).

Street racing is different from highway pulling......LOL

But yes, that porsche was DAMN fast. His dad ( the owner) is a dentist, owns his own dental place....$$$$. He told me last night he was thinking of trading for an F430....He was going to trade for a 360...but around that time there was speculation of a new ferrari...so he waited.

anywho. It was fun.

-Jonathan

 

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

The only thing I wonder about is how fast more expensive sports cars can go through turns.

I saw an evo8 beat a murcialago on a moderately tight course on TV the other night, your post just reminded me of it...they were both stock

 

[GrimJack]

I just like to know how cars compare on technical roads, that is all.
I think that cars may have the advantage on very tight turns, while bikes are better at higher speed turns.

Have you seen the Top Gear vid where he races the Ariel Atom (500kg car with 300hp) against a bike? They were pretty much dead even in the straights, but he could pull way higher speeds through the turns.

 

[TONY!]

...The only thing I wonder about is how fast more expensive sports cars can go through turns...

I saw an evo8 beat a murcialago on a moderately tight course on TV the other night, your post just reminded me of it...they were both stock

NO! Cant be! You're telling me that the car in the first pic beat the car in the second pic?! I just now know what an evo8 is (after I did a google search).

IMO though, Lamborghini does not have anywhere near the racing heritage or knowlegde as Ferrari has, or other supercar makers for that matter.

How in the world can this thing:

beat this thing?!

 

[TONY!]

...I just like to know how cars compare on technical roads, that is all.
I think that cars may have the advantage on very tight turns, while bikes are better at higher speed turns...

Have you seen the Top Gear vid where he races the Ariel Atom (500kg car with 300hp) against a bike? They were pretty much dead even in the straights, but he could pull way higher speeds through the turns.

No, I haven't. Link me up This is a very interesting topic for me. I have wondered for very long about this topic.
I know for a fact that I can't spin in a 180 degree turn anywhere near as fast as a car in a tight radius turn. Auto-X tracks would make a superbike look weak -- I know that for sure. A dirt bike will probably even be better for a tight track like auto-X than a superbike would.

I just never seen a car hit turns like some of the riders I know have.
Any vids/links or discussions of this topic is very interesting to me.

 

[Mr.SelfDestruct]

NO! Cant be! You're telling me that the car in the first pic beat the car in the second pic?! I just now know what an evo8 is (after I did a google search).

IMO though, Lamborghini does not have anywhere near the racing heritage or knowlegde as Ferrari has, or other supercar makers for that matter.

How in the world can this thing:

beat this thing?!

the evo8 is awd and the lambo is a fatass, not to mention the evo didnt technically "beat" the murcialago, it just stayed on its bumper forcing the driver to accidentally spin in the exit of the turn.

 

[GrimJack]

Direct link to the Atom segment on vid is here: http://www.openwheelers.com.au/videos/Top_Gear_Ariel_Atom_2_Full_segment.mpg

And the webpage singing it's praises (and carrying this vid) is here: http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/press.htm

 

[lagged]

i wonder if that guy lost his cool sombrero de goucho

 

[ShagsSupra]

Direct link to the Atom segment on vid is here: http://www.openwheelers.com.au/videos/Top_Gear_Ariel_Atom_2_Full_segment.mpg

And the webpage singing it's praises (and carrying this vid) is here: http://www.arielmotor.co.uk/04/press.htm

seen that awhile back atleast I know my bike can beat it 0-60 now

Its not faster then all bikes like they said they should have put it up against a busa or zx10 or zx12 or a BIG bike like they were making out... a 600 is basicly the bike most start riding on, then crave more powr and move up lol, and After riding my cousins 04 Gixxer 1k... Makes my bike feel slow as a DX civic... But as for that car.. im in Love with it! but its not faster then a TRUE big sports bike like they were saying.

 

[ShagsSupra]

http://www.7digital.com/shops/assets/fifthgear/lamb.asp


999 Vs a Gallardo Lamb