jetjock;967716 said:
My motor has one too.
However, the second you over torque and it breaks or pinches tighter than other ends... it's all over.
oil pan gasket blewout!!! WTF?!?!?!?!?!
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My motor has one too.
However, the second you over torque and it breaks or pinches tighter than other ends... it's all over.
Pretty much every engine on the planet hasn't used FIPG for most of automotive history. Makes one wonder how people ever managed without it....
Sorry Pood, no sale. I've been building engines since way before gasket came in a tube. Before even RTV was around. All we had was cork and it worked fine. Still does.
I'm not saying FIPG isn't an improvement in some ways but there nothing special about the 7M's pan or block that precludes doing it old school. The difference is back then we learned how to be good mechanics...something that is generally lacking in today's youth car culture.
I'm not saying FIPG isn't an improvement in some ways but there nothing special about the 7M's pan or block that precludes doing it old school. The difference is back then we learned how to be good mechanics...something that is generally lacking in today's youth car culture.
not all of us know when to stop turning, or use a torque wrench on everything (I do)
FIPG works better for the masses IMHO...
FIPG works better for the masses IMHO...
So we're both saying the same thing: It's not the gasket's fault. That's different than what you were previously saying yet exactly what I stated. Let's call it a draw
brad92t;967679 said:Well I must say, you are the first person I have ever seen on this forum say anything but "Cork is the WORST option"
I know someone installed a cork gasket on mine at some point and I have them to thank for rod knock. (and myself for being irresponsible about it but that was before I was on this forum
Poodles;967706 said:
fellas, i said RTV, not the FIPG. oil penetrates RTV over time, period. This is not only mentioned on most RTV sealant packages it was proven on my last car as the idiot who rebuilt it decided to use some as an oil pan gasket...took time to happen but it did eventually. And personally i have never had any issues with cork gaskets being penetrated.
Ok wow I leave this thread for 12 hours and it explodes. Well started taking pan off finally and damn I now remember how much I HATE doing it. Well either way I have a cork gasket and also the FIPG. The RTV was because I didnt know what it was originally called until BJ91T told me. And I learned real quick on this car from having to replace intake mani gaskets that not torquing things down to proper specs just causes headaches and such in the end. Had to replace the y-pipe cuz of an over torque on one of the bolts. I own three different torque wrenches for that reason now so I can torque anything from 1ft lbs up too 300 ft lbs. Proper tools for the job.......:icon_wink
bluedragon17;967584 said:
Sounds to me like you're not getting enough vacuum from the inlet pipe going to the turbo. I'd hazard a guess and say that's your problem right there
.The majority of the vacuum needed comes from that TB port that you stated you capped off.
bluedragon17;967584 said:
So it IS a Cletus PCV system..... :nono:
You're relying on the Vacc created by the Aircleaner restriction to Turbo as the only + source of crankcase evacuation, your motor probably has more blowby than can be handled with the small ID pipes/hoses used and you're getting + crankcase pressure which has found it's easiest escape route.
A Catchcan isn't going to make any difference may as well leave it in it's box.
I followed the write up on the NA-T swap and thats all they said about the pcv system. So how do I fix it then?? And can you show me how to plum in the catch can also the correct way so i dont have any more issues with this system?? thanks again all
Valve cover ports --- one side of baffled catch can --- other side tee'd line with straight section going to TB port and the TEE part going to intake pre-turbo.
I don't think the N/A's have the check valve in the TB that the turbo TB does...
might want to add a PCV check valve...
might want to add a PCV check valve...
one way check valve like an actual pcv valve?? or like most hondas have to use when the go boost??
Small orifice/restriction isn't it?
(never owned a GTE so nfi really)
I use RTV and don't have leaks
In the Old days I never had leaks using Cork gaskets either.
(never owned a GTE so nfi really)
I use RTV and don't have leaks
In the Old days I never had leaks using Cork gaskets either.
Yeah, it's necked down in there. I forget the size but it's nowhere near as big as the external port. It serves a purpose under boost too. I'd explain it but I'm sick of trying to teach people how this simple PCV design works. Hell, most still think PCV exists for combustion blowby.
Never had problems in the old days huh. Imagine that
Never had problems in the old days huh. Imagine that
My old 4v Toyota V8 had a brilliant pan gasket it was a steel shim inside Rubber, sealed perfectly and could be reused over and over!
Well thanks for the attempt JJ and IJ I undrstand the basics of the system and if not I know where the search button is!!